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Moving the goalpost
FR ^ | 2/11/21 | Sidebar Moderator

Posted on 02/11/2021 2:59:50 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator

It's clear the impeachment managers, realizing they don't have the votes to convict because Trump's speech could not have incited a riot that was pre-planned, are now alleging, equally without evidence, that Trump was in on it all along. Wouldn't this require the House to re-impeach since incitement doesn't fit the newly uncovered evidence?


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1 posted on 02/11/2021 2:59:50 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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I’m not sure this would be the case. If a prosecutor files a murder charge and accuses the defendant of shooting someone, does he have to re-file the case if it turns out the cause of death was blunt force trauma but it was still caused by the same perpetrator?


2 posted on 02/11/2021 3:07:24 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Alberta's Child

No, this is a different charge.

This is more like filing burglary charges, then finding out a murder had taken place in the store.

You cannot piggyback one charge on an existing one.

In your example it is the same CHARGE, just a difference in method.


3 posted on 02/11/2021 3:12:11 AM PST by freedumb2003 (No matter what, resist and stop the agenda of blow bidet and hairass the whore)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

I would prefer a 3rd impeachment and hopefully more to follow. IMO the best use of the House’s time for the next 2 years.


4 posted on 02/11/2021 3:16:33 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: Alberta's Child

Good point - if this process was consistent with reason and logic. And Constitutional law. But, as we know, it’s purely political. The “prosecutors” aren’t even pretending to adhere to any of the usual safeguards or protocols of a criminal court case. The jurors aren’t impartial; they’re a group of politicians. But, again, your point is well taken.


5 posted on 02/11/2021 3:16:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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Will they care? I think the legislature just want to pass a bill which punishes a citizen they don’t like. They don’t seem to worry too much about the details.


6 posted on 02/11/2021 3:17:46 AM PST by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: freedumb2003

Bingo.


7 posted on 02/11/2021 3:18:00 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: WinMod70

Agreed πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


8 posted on 02/11/2021 3:18:28 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Alberta's Child
Impeachment is whatever the House says it is, but I think that the Articles of Impeachment are the criminal equivalent of "incitement to riot," while these new modified articles would be the equivalent of "conspiracy to commit."

Once a D.A. has filed charges against someone, they can amend those charges as the evidence allows. They don't need to go back to a Grand Jury to get additional indictments.

That is not true of the House Managers. They are there only to prosecute the Articles of Impeachment passed by the house. They can't willy-nilly add additional scope to the chagres on their own volition.

9 posted on 02/11/2021 3:19:10 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Old tweets show Raskin, Biden saying ‘fight like hell’ many times

https://nypost.com/2021/02/10/old-tweets-show-raskin-biden-saying-fight-like-hell/


10 posted on 02/11/2021 3:20:30 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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Don’t think they care either. But it’s been obvious from the start that impeachment is just a desperate gambit to keep Trump’s name off the ballot in 2024. With the emerging evidence conflicting with the managers’ original narrative, it makes conviction all the more a long shot. Thus, the need to re-impeach in the hopes of bringing more RINOs on board. Of course, it would be a nakedly desperate move, but desperate times ....


11 posted on 02/11/2021 3:25:54 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: xzins

Yes, exactly. Saw those. Very Damaging. Thanks for posting them here for those who might have seen them.


12 posted on 02/11/2021 3:28:38 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

*might not


13 posted on 02/11/2021 3:30:47 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator; Admin Moderator

What does the Admin Moderator think about all this?


14 posted on 02/11/2021 3:39:22 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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That, plus your point about shifting goslposts, seems clearly to indicate the Senate is targeting a private citizen without a court trial and without due process. It seems to be attempting a bill of attainder.


15 posted on 02/11/2021 3:39:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: Sidebar Moderator

That will be next year’s Trump Impeachment.


16 posted on 02/11/2021 3:45:01 AM PST by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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To: Libloather

Hehehe ;-)


17 posted on 02/11/2021 3:46:40 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: xzins

Couldn’t agree more.


18 posted on 02/11/2021 3:47:18 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Pollster1

“That will be next year’s Trump Impeachment.”
Thinking the same thing. Rats will Impeach as often as the see the need. IMO


19 posted on 02/11/2021 3:47:48 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: Pollster1

πŸ˜‚ As one poster said here, it keeps them distracted away from their destructive agenda.


20 posted on 02/11/2021 3:49:36 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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