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Why Haven’t We Had Any Test Cruises Yet?
Cruise Hive ^ | Jan. 15, 2021 | Robert McGillivray

Posted on 01/15/2021 3:41:08 PM PST by Capt. Tom

The atmosphere on November 1, 2020, in the cruise industry, was one of pure optimism. Not only did the US Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) lift the No-Sail-Order, but we would also soon start seeing ships sailing from US ports on test cruises. The end of December, or at the latest, the start of January, would surely be the time.

More than 150,000 people signed up for the test cruises onboard Royal Caribbean ships, while the Facebook page quickly gained 63,000 followers.

That optimism has faded somewhat. It’s mid-January, and there is no sign whatsoever of any ships even preparing to sail on test cruises. What Gives?

Is the CDC Stalling? Well, it’s not just the CDC, but the fact the agency has not provided cruise operators with guidelines on the test sailings has so far delayed proceedings.

In the call that Carnival Corporation CEO Arnold Donald held with investors this week, the CEO was asked: What is happening with the test cruises? Donald’s reply was this:

“The additional guidelines for future phases have not yet been issued by the CDC. We have weekly calls or as often as we need with them. So that remains to be seen. But what I can tell you is that we’re on track to be able to do whatever we need to do in a very timely manner to be able to resume cruise ultimately.

To answer your question about specific timing on a test cruise, yes, we would be waiting. But obviously, we’re doing a lot of things. We’ve started to bring ships back into the US and are meeting the criteria put out there to be in a position to then subsequently do test cruises. But to give you a specific timing on the test cruises, we would need additional guidance from the CDC.”

Without the proper guidelines and instructions from the CDC, the cruise lines have their hands tied. Of course, it’s no surprise the test cruises are taking longer to materialize than expected.

The second wave of COVID-19 infections does beg the question if sailing would be a good idea anyway. Even ships sailing for many months have stopped operating in Europe and are not expected to start again until the end of January.

Waiting for the New Administration? It could very well be that the CDC is waiting for President-elect Biden to take over. Joe Biden has stated already he will be extremely tough on how he will deal with the virus, especially for the first 100 days of his presidency. Why would the CDC allow test cruises now, if they might just be canceled again later?

However, it is entirely possible that the CDC wanted cruises to start up when they lifted the No-Sail-Order last year. COVID-19 is currently spreading at such alarming rates that it doesn’t permit test cruises to occur in a manner that could be considered safe. You could argue that the cruise lines themselves do not want to sail right now.

Cruise Lines Have Too Much To Do? The two largest cruise operators in the world have been kept postponing cruises since the first suspensions were announced back in March 2020.

The fact that Royal Caribbean has canceled cruises as far as May 2021 and Carnival as far as the fall for select ships, this could very well be a sign of worse to come.

It goes beyond just waiting for a response from the CDC. Thousands of crew members need to be brought back to the ships. This needs to be done safely and in accordance with the CDC. Ships need to have a green status for this to happen.

Ways to help protect guests and the crew is a huge importance. Protocols need to be refined covering many different aspects of the cruise vacation experience including before even embarking on the ship.

MSC Cruises and Costa Cruises have vast amounts of data about how cruising can be done safely during the pandemic. Even they have moored their ships for now. Keep in mind, if ships did start sailing now, and an outbreak would occur, the media coverage could do more damage to the cruise industry than the pandemic itself.

As Royal Caribbean said before on the subject of test cruises: “Our priority is to ensure that we can exercise our comprehensive set of measures safely and healthily while making sure we provide a memorable vacation experience.”

That safe and healthy manner does not seem to be possible right now. The question is, therefore, not what gives? But, when will the time be right for test cruises to start?

If the current situation doesn’t improve soon, it could be much longer than we ever expected.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Travel
KEYWORDS: cdc; delays; testcruises
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An article that pretty well covers some of our discussions on FR. I am glad to see the CDC mentioned as part of the problem, and the uncertainty of what the Biden administration will do.

As time goes on, the articles written on the Cruise magazines are now less rosy and rah rah, and starting to face up to the potential of an economic disaster happening.-Tom

1 posted on 01/15/2021 3:41:08 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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Pretty sure there was a test cruise recently and it was a disaster. Somebody infected got aboard and spread it to many.

This was just a few weeks ago.


2 posted on 01/15/2021 3:43:15 PM PST by Owen
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To: Capt. Tom

I think most folks are waiting to make sure they don’t end up on a cruise with that nasty Pee-Jay blogger.


3 posted on 01/15/2021 3:44:00 PM PST by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Our local US businesses aren’t the only ones who are hurting. Any businesses dealing with travel all over the world is hurting bigtime.


4 posted on 01/15/2021 3:44:17 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: Capt. Tom

A cruise 🚢 might be the last thing we NORMALS are thinking about.


5 posted on 01/15/2021 3:50:27 PM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Owen; gibsonguy; NormsRevenge; Chgogal; Ann Archy; dennisw; entropy12; Captain Walker; ...
Pretty sure there was a test cruise recently and it was a disaster. Somebody infected got aboard and spread it to many.
This was just a few weeks ago.

As I said before they want the cruise Lines to be safer than our hospitals and our White House when it comes to Covid-19.-Tom

6 posted on 01/15/2021 3:51:35 PM PST by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: Owen

‘Somebody infected got aboard and spread it to many.’

so did anyone die or even get more than mildly ill...?


7 posted on 01/15/2021 3:51:36 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Capt. Tom

Test cruise to Block Island.


8 posted on 01/15/2021 3:58:39 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Capt. Tom

Lots of crew were Filipino. They finally (after 3 to 6 months) were allowed off ships in some cases. They decidedly changed careers. At one time, there was hundreds of cruise ships in Manila bay with stranded crew.


9 posted on 01/15/2021 4:02:25 PM PST by Starcitizen (Thank you to the Senate for passing S.386, turning the US into the third-world shithole of India. )
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To: Slyfox
Our local US businesses aren’t the only ones who are hurting. Any businesses dealing with travel all over the world is hurting bigtime.

My travel agent had an EXPEDIA agency, and went out of business months ago because of the Cruise line collapse. -Tom

10 posted on 01/15/2021 4:05:59 PM PST by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

“Why Haven’t We Had Any Test Cruises Yet?”

There were!


11 posted on 01/15/2021 4:06:05 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Capt. Tom

We’ve had Ted Cruzes.


12 posted on 01/15/2021 4:06:08 PM PST by Aliska (I'm from the Department of Health and I'm here to health you.)
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To: Owen

“Pretty sure there was a test cruise recently and it was a disaster. Somebody infected got aboard and spread it to many.”

Source?


13 posted on 01/15/2021 4:07:05 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: IrishBrigade

‘Pretty Sure” >> ‘Just Guessing’


14 posted on 01/15/2021 4:12:53 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Capt. Tom; Owen; gibsonguy; NormsRevenge; Chgogal; Ann Archy; dennisw; entropy12; Captain Walker

Correcto Mundo. They want cruise ships to be safer than hospitals and airline flights.

Also if infected means testing positive without getting very sick, it is another good method to acquire natural immunity and acts similar to vaccine. I am now sure both me and wife got infected on Carnival cruise ending on Feb 29th, had minor symptoms after disembarking, our bodies fought it off, and we probably acquired some immunity. If they had tested us, we would be positive as well.


15 posted on 01/15/2021 4:13:32 PM PST by entropy12 (It is NOT WHO VOTES, it is who COUNTS THE VOTES, become the rulers...I think Stalin said that?)
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To: Capt. Tom
"Why Haven’t We Had Any Test Cruises Yet?"

Well, we have Ted Cruzes, and Tom Cruises. Isn't that enough?

16 posted on 01/15/2021 4:17:58 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Capt. Tom

Where would a cruise go that is safe? Would you just do loops and maybe hit the company island for some duty-free?

I wouldn’t be worried personally, but considering the behavior of people today, who cross the street when they see an unmasked face, I can’t see them jumping back into port calls and shopping sprees on the islands. And right now, the islands don’t want you.


17 posted on 01/15/2021 4:26:12 PM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: Owen

How many died? Do you remember?


18 posted on 01/15/2021 4:30:53 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (They had to kill somebody for their plan to work. RIP Ashli.)
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To: TexasGator

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/royal-caribbean-test-cruise-forced-back-to-port-after-positive-covid-19-case-120920.html


19 posted on 01/16/2021 10:38:21 AM PST by Owen
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To: Owen

“and spread it to many.”

Thanks for debunking your post.


20 posted on 01/16/2021 10:44:46 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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