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If Biden Is Replaced on Democrat Ticket, What Happens to Ballots Already Cast For Him?
Self | September 19, 2020 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 09/19/2020 2:55:46 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Something is definitely going on with Joe Biden. His campaign this morning called a "lid" for him for the day which means he is remaining at home. I checked for tomorrow and again, he has no campaigning scheduled. In fact, so far I have seen NOTHING scheduled for him for next week.

In effect, his campaign has ground to a halt. Yes, there is definitely something going on behind the scenes. Probably a medical situation.

It take no stretch of the imagination to see that the Democrats might have to replace Biden on the ticket. However, since voting in several states have already begun, the question is what happens to those ballots already cast? You can't assume that just because a voter cast his ballot for Biden that it should automatically go to whatever Democrat they replace him with, such as Hillary. In fact, the Constitution does not even refer to political parties.

Also what happens to all the mail-in and other ballots already printed up? Would they have to be ditched?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: anothervanity; ballots; biden; election; election2020; joebiden; stupidvanity
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To: exnavy

Biden IS a gift from God. Don’t rock the boat.


61 posted on 09/19/2020 3:29:17 PM PDT by moonhawk (These blue state tyrants seem to be doing their very best to turn their states red.)
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To: discostu

Not that tough, assuming Democrats control both houses of the state legislature, and that Republicans lack the ability to filibuster in either house, and that there is no Republican governor with a veto. But there are not that many states where all of that is true.


62 posted on 09/19/2020 3:33:57 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: NonValueAdded

Wasn’t there just a Supreme Court ruling on point — that faithless electors are illegal? I seem to remember that electors are bound by the vote of the people. Ergo votes for Biden must fore the EC to cast those votes for Biden if he wins.

Its a hell of a mess — I like the idea of Trump nominating Biden to the Supreme Court — LOL


63 posted on 09/19/2020 3:37:51 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gibsonguy
If you caught his reaction to RBG passing then you would see what l mean it was a good rational statement with no prompter and even som me off the cuff reflections.

Not to sound bat-sh!t crazy, but ...

Is there any chance that was recorded months ago?

64 posted on 09/19/2020 3:40:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (“There’s somebody new and he sure ain’t no rodeo man.”)
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To: PJ-Comix

#Security > #Press > #Fans


65 posted on 09/19/2020 3:40:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: PJ-Comix

Unless he dies, not going to happen, in my opinion. But good question, I assume the DNC will pick their candidate(s), both president and VP.


66 posted on 09/19/2020 3:40:47 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: The Pack Knight

Republican blocking that would be the kiss of death. Let the people have their representation. Remember, the only way it even matters is if Biden wins the state, GOP state legislatures in those states would be on a thin line anyway.


67 posted on 09/19/2020 3:40:55 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: PJ-Comix

You must remember you are not voting for the candidate. You are voting for an elector who is committed to the Democrat party. They can vote for whoever replaced Joe.

But that is not going to happen. Joe is their ride or die candidate. The Republicans need to start behaving like Joe is a candidate. Pretending he is sitting in the basement, drooling, is only going to bite us in the ass.


68 posted on 09/19/2020 3:41:46 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: BigEdLB

Actually, the ballots would be for electors pledged to Joe Biden, not the Democratic Party. The Supreme Court ruled, earlier this year that electors must vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged.


69 posted on 09/19/2020 3:41:52 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: tired&retired

Yes, my mother n law survived a brain aneurysm last year.
Personality, mood changes & cognitive issues are what I’ve noticed. Short tempered too.


70 posted on 09/19/2020 3:42:41 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: PJ-Comix

He’s resting and practicing for the debate.

Mr. Biden, are you having trouble with your mental faculties?

C’mon man!

Mr.Biden, will you raise taxes?

That’s a lot of malarkey!

Mr. Biden, are you in favor of gun control?

Yeah, Jill knows what to do, fire BOTH barrels!

Mr.Biden where do you stand on abortion?

I think the man ought to take responsibility and pay for them, I always did.

Mr. Biden who will you nominate to the supreme court when/if there is a vacancy?

AOC, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Lady Gaga, Jane Fonda, (I LIKE GIRLS!) Did you ever see the hairs on my legs? Come here, sit on my lap.


71 posted on 09/19/2020 3:42:55 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: clearcarbon

It has to be pretty bad for him to be the bait in the bait and switch.


72 posted on 09/19/2020 3:44:09 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: PJ-Comix

In 1912 the Republican nominee for Vice President (who was the incumbent Vice President) died a few days before the election. The party replaced him. It didn’t matter much since the Republican ticket got only 8 electoral votes (Taft came in third after Wilson and T. Roosevelt). Of course that was before early voting.


73 posted on 09/19/2020 3:48:17 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: The Pack Knight; PJ-Comix
I posted this article about a month ago.

In short...

October/early November

In October, especially later in the month, and in early November (before November 8), the situation would have become significantly more complicated. At this point, nearly all ballot certification deadlines would have passed, many ballots were printed, and voters in some states had already cast their ballots.

This begs the question: What happens if a candidate has dropped out of the race but wins the popular vote in a state? Would the replacement nominee just receive those electoral votes? The answer lies in what that state has to say about its electors in the electoral college. The Constitution does not dictate how electors must cast their votes. But some states do. More than half the states have laws dictating how electors must vote. If the former nominee won in a state that does not have a law on how its electors vote, then, theoretically, he or she could win all of that state's electoral votes. But if the former nominee won in a state that does have a law on how its electors vote, then one would have to look at that law's fine print to see what would happen and if the state's electoral votes could go to the replacement nominee.

Examples of state laws on presidential electors

  • Michigan: "Refusal or failure to vote for the candidates for president and vice-president appearing on the Michigan ballot of the political party which nominated the elector constitutes a resignation from the office of elector, his vote shall not be recorded and the remaining electors shall forthwith fill the vacancy." (Michigan State Statute 168.47)
  • Florida: "Each such elector shall be a qualified elector of the party he or she represents who has taken an oath that he or she will vote for the candidates of the party that he or she is nominated to represent." (Florida State Statute 103.021)
  • Colorado: "Each presidential elector shall vote for the presidential candidate and, by separate ballot, vice-presidential candidate who received the highest number of votes at the preceding general election in this state." (Colorado State Statute 1.4.304)

74 posted on 09/19/2020 3:49:02 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: reg45

The Supreme Court ruled, earlier this year that electors must vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged.”

Actually, the Supreme Court ruled that states can require electors to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged. The case was about “faithless elector” laws. But the state legislature could change the law to allow the electors to vote for another candidate, or the law could have a clause covering a case where the candidate dies or cannot serve. The Legislature could even choose to send its own slate of electors. The Constitution leaves it pretty much up to the Legislature.


75 posted on 09/19/2020 3:49:23 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: faucetman

Biden has said he would pick a black woman for the Court, which limits him very much. I have seen a couple of names mentioned, neither one well-known.


76 posted on 09/19/2020 3:49:31 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: PJ-Comix

We are witnessing “Weekend at Bernies,” on a presidential scale.

Enjoy.


77 posted on 09/19/2020 3:53:42 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Starboard
He appeared very fatigued yesterday. Just my impression.

One of the side effects of the meds he's on.

78 posted on 09/19/2020 3:54:16 PM PDT by JPG (MAGA 2020!)
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To: DoodleBob

Interesting. So in the examples you present, electors in Michigan and Colorado are required to vote for the candidate that appeared on the ballot. In Florida, the electors are required to vote for “the candidate of the party”, which could give leeway to vote for a replacement as long as that replacement becomes “the candidate of the party”.


79 posted on 09/19/2020 3:56:00 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: precisionshootist

As a matter of fact, early vote can be changed! I send out ballot and then realized a mistake. I called, they let me in the basket full of ballots, I found myself, and exchanged it with correction! Basically they kept all the ballots in basket to be open and voted later. However early voting is being counted instantly so no correction there.

However since the ballots are already printed, the name on the ballot will be hard to change. Sleepy Joe is in the race, like it or not. But if he wins, they can change him.


80 posted on 09/19/2020 3:56:19 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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