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Did a solar flare sink the Titanic? Study suggests space weather may have been responsible for tragedy
meaww ^ | 09/16/2020 | Mihika Basu

Posted on 09/16/2020 7:36:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The geomagnetic storm that resulted in the disturbances recorded during the night could have affected the compasses of nearby ships, she emphasizes. “If Titanic’s compass error were only 0.5°, she would have been off her course for around 9 m over 1 km of the run. This apparently insignificant error could have made the difference between colliding with the iceberg and avoiding it..."

The other impact of the geomagnetic storm upon the Titanic rescue operation was wireless communication. According to the report, the Titanic used the ship frequency of 500kHz to send distress messages, a wavelength of 600 meter but could switch to 1000kHz. The researcher explains that geomagnetic storms may disrupt wireless communication through the addition of electric charge to the “D regions of the ionosphere, about 80-90 km in altitude, and corresponding to the lower level of the aurora.” This effect may enhance distant communication due to wave reflection, but absorption occurs at higher frequencies, and further radio static and interference may occur near the aurora, reveals analysis.

“On the night of April 14/15, 1912, communication problems were reported. The Baltic Marconi operators described the radio signals as ‘freaky.’ A few Marconi operators working in the area of the disaster reported atmospherics and weak signals. The Baltic could not hear the transmissions by the Mount Temple but had no difficulties communicating with Virginia, which was farther away,” ... When the Mount Temple responded to the Titanic’s SOS, for example, Titanic’s Marconi operator Jack Phillips did not get the call, he only knew that somebody was calling. Another steamer the La Provence could not hear the Titanic while she had no difficulties hearing the Olympic, which was around 500miles (around 800km) farther away than the Titanic was.

(Excerpt) Read more at meaww.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; bebritish; carringtonevent; catastrophism; cme; coronalmassejection; everymanforhimself; godsgravesglyphs; science; sida; solarflare; titanic
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To: abigkahuna

It depends on the band, really. At 40m, I’m not likely to reach Europe, but can easily talk to anyone within 400 miles. At 20m I boom onto Spain on 100 watts. I wonder what frequency they used back in those days?


81 posted on 09/17/2020 2:44:29 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV

Pretty low—the article says 600m wavelength....but I don’t know if that is what they mean. 600Mhz? in the AM band? very possible as it was before “radio.”


82 posted on 09/17/2020 4:06:28 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: PUGACHEV

Pretty low—the article says 600m wavelength....but I don’t know if that is what they mean. 600Mhz? in the AM band? very possible as it was before “radio.”


83 posted on 09/17/2020 4:06:45 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

No one was watching.


84 posted on 09/17/2020 6:19:42 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: BenLurkin

A new myth from the climate wackos.


85 posted on 09/17/2020 8:02:52 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: miserare

you bet....it was a space monkey/flair....yep that’s the ticket!!


86 posted on 09/17/2020 8:04:28 PM PDT by RevelationDavid (Don't just 'know about God'...... KNOW GOD....!)
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To: BenLurkin

As ludicrous as my favorite Spanish soap opera series “High Seas” on Amazon Prime.


87 posted on 09/17/2020 8:11:47 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: May Bee

Do they know you escaped?


88 posted on 09/17/2020 8:17:31 PM PDT by Fledermaus (ONLY A MORON THINKS 6 FEET IS A MAGIC NUMBER!)
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To: Crim

Was it really the Viking Kitties?


89 posted on 09/17/2020 8:17:38 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: TexasGator

You are still over-looking the second part of that sentence in my original post: “, but has its own dangers - as the Titanic discovered.”


90 posted on 09/17/2020 10:06:36 PM PDT by Mr Information
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To: abigkahuna
I found a facinating article on the Titanic's radio communications. The Titanic had a 5KW transmitter which operated on either 500Khz (600 m) or 1Mhz (300m). Because it was a spark gap transmitter, there were substantial harmonics, so a lot of that 5Khz produced other frequencies as well. The Titanic's antenna was itself a titanic bed spring design stretching almost from stem to stern.

Titanic used a Marconi system, which was in competition with the Telefunken system for marine radio telegraphy. Marconi used CQD -.-. --.- -.., Come Quick Disaster, for a distress call while Telefunken had switched to SOS ... --- .... Titanic's Marconi call sign was MGY or -- --. -.--

McBride intentionally slowed down his transmissions to 15wpm for clairty, while the responding ships sent at 40wpm. It may seem incredible that those speeds could be used routinely, but my grandfather was a telegrapher for the Lehigh Valley Railroad in his youth, and sixty years later, although nearly blind, he could sit by the shortwave and still copy down faster than that.

91 posted on 09/18/2020 8:22:07 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: BenLurkin

Around 15 years ago I read a book, “Titanic The Ship That Never Sank?” that raised some interesting questions about what went wrong. The author had the theory that it was actually that White Star swapped ships and that the Titanic was really the damaged Olympic. I believe that theory was debunked.

What was interesting is that at the court of inquiry various experienced captains knew there was some sort of coverup. One ship’s captain had made over 700 North Atlantic crossings wondered how the Hell they could hit an ice berg? He said one could literally smell them even when it’s pitch black. The accident was without precedent. A large ship had never struck and ice berg before and sank.

Growing up I remember hearing about the 300 ft tear in the hull of the Titanic and that was the ‘settled science’ until Robert Ballard discovered the wreck in 1985 and found there was no 300 foot gash. The next theory was that the steel of the ship was brittle and it cracked during the collision. The author favored the coal bunker fire theory; that the fire weakened the hull which led to the sinking.

The author raised other interesting points. When the Titanic collided with the ice berg no one felt it on the ship; it was a slight bump. At the 30 knots the Titanic was traveling the impact would have been like taking a broadside from a battle ship. The ice that fell on the deck was probably the ice that formed on the rigging. Still another point was that no one on deck saw an ice berg.

All interesting points among many others. I can’t confirm the veracity but I do agree with a prior poster than it was an error cascade that led to the disaster.


92 posted on 09/18/2020 10:21:38 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: EEGator
"This thread is for smartass and insane posts only.

And also for 'lubbers like me who are interested in nautical history. Forget the conspiracy theories, lots of interesting information on the navigation and communication technologies of the time.
93 posted on 09/18/2020 10:27:29 AM PDT by KamperKen
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To: Mr Information

So, how fast do you drive through school zones with heavy fog conditions?


94 posted on 09/18/2020 10:58:24 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: BenLurkin; SunkenCiv
Since the Titanic's crew had no idea where the iceberg was, how did +/-inaccuracy in their planned route increase their danger?

Just another example of idiots with more time than brains playing, "What If?"...

~~~~~~~~~~~

Snarky enough?

TXnMA    '-}
  

95 posted on 09/18/2020 2:13:59 PM PDT by TXnMA (Democrat Party's sole 2020 platform plank: HATRED...)
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To: TexasGator; Mr Information
“I’ve heard that the theory at that time was to spend as little time as possible in the danger area, hence full speed. Which makes a certain sense,”

"Makes no sense."

Actually, it makes an bout as much sense as speeding to get to a gas station -- when you're nearly out of gas...

TXnMA    '-)
  

96 posted on 09/18/2020 2:30:41 PM PDT by TXnMA (Democrat Party's sole 2020 platform plank: HATRED...)
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To: BenLurkin
Thanks for a cathartic thread!

TXnMA    '-)
  

97 posted on 09/18/2020 2:32:31 PM PDT by TXnMA (Democrat Party's sole 2020 platform plank: HATRED...)
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To: BenLurkin

Thanx Ben.

Here is another fact. The story is that the band played while it was sinking is false. Oh they played..until it was at such an angle they couldnt hold on to play. So for about the last 40 minutes..or longer they did not play.

The one I really take great interest in is the Lusitania. The Cap of that ship actually went down on her, and a miracle, he popped back up and survived. He was crucified in court, so to cover up the admiralty’s asses. The Brit navy have covered their asses since on that disaster.


98 posted on 09/19/2020 12:48:43 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

BTW Ben. My uncle went into the navy just after WW1. He says they studied those two sinkings very closely. He knew an awful lot about them.

Said an whole lot of ships were saved during WW2 because they took note of the mistakes of those two ships.

He was on the USS Missouri at the signing of the surrender.


99 posted on 09/19/2020 12:52:46 PM PDT by crz
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