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Hubble Discovery Hints at a Serious Problem With Our Understanding of Dark Matter
www.sciencealert.com ^ | 11 SEPTEMBER 2020 | MICHELLE STARR

Posted on 09/11/2020 10:56:00 AM PDT by Red Badger

It would be extremely optimistic to suggest that we have a good handle on dark matter. But even the slight grasp we do have may be missing something important.

New observations from the Hubble Space Telescope have found much higher concentrations of dark matter than expected in some galaxies, by over an order of magnitude.

These concentrations are inconsistent with theoretical models, suggesting that there's a big gap in our understanding - the simulations could be incorrect, or there could be a property of dark matter we don't fully understand, according to the research team.

"We have done a lot of careful testing in comparing the simulations and data in this study, and our finding of the mismatch persists," said astrophysicist Massimo Meneghetti of the National Institute for Astrophysics in Italy.

"One possible origin for this discrepancy is that we may be missing some key physics in the simulations."

Dark matter is one of the biggest thorns in our understanding of the Universe. Simply put, we don't know what it is. It does not absorb, reflect, or emit any electromagnetic radiation, making it completely undetectable in a direct way. However, it does interact with the Universe's visible matter via gravity.

This means we can study how things like galaxies and stars are distributed and move around the Universe, calculate the gravity required to produce those distributions and movements, and calculate and subtract the gravity produced by the visible matter.

The gravity that's left indicates how much dark matter is in the Universe - and, from what we can tell, it's a lot. As much as 85 percent of the matter in the Universe could be dark matter.

One of the ways we can indirectly 'detect' dark matter is through gravitational lensing. Really massive objects, like clusters of galaxies, create such an intense gravitational field that spacetime itself curves - which means any light travelling through that spacetime moves on a curving path.

So, objects on the far side of that gravitational field, such as distant galaxies, appear to us magnified, smeared, duplicated, and distorted.

Gravitational lensing. (NASA, ESA & L. Calçada)

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By studying these distortions and putting the galaxies back together, we can figure out how the light was distorted, which means we can map the gravitational field - the bigger the distortion, the stronger the gravitational field. Once again, subtract the visible matter, et voila - a map of the dark matter within that lensing cluster. It's mind-blowingly clever.

And that's what Meneghetti and his team were doing, looking at observations of 11 galaxy clusters using the Hubble Space Telescope and the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope in Chile.

"Galaxy clusters are ideal laboratories to understand if computer simulations of the Universe reliably reproduce what we can infer about dark matter and its interplay with luminous matter," he explained.

When the team sat down to analyse the data, they found the large-scale lensing effects as expected to be produced by the galaxy as a whole. But they also found smaller lensing effects nested inside. These small lenses, produced by individual galaxies within the clusters, did not appear in simulations of the clusters, suggesting an excess of dark matter.

To check their findings, the team conducted spectroscopic observations of the galaxies, using the shift of light to calculate the velocity of the orbiting stars - a classic tool for measuring dark matter.

And they double-checked their distance calculations, because that can make a crucial difference to dark matter calculations.

The researchers found that there's a much greater concentration of dark matter in those individual galaxies than the simulations allowed for. But the simulations were based on our best understanding of dark matter - so where does the additional mass come from?

Well, we don't know. But it's going to be an exciting journey of discovery.

"To me personally, detecting a gnawing gap - a factor of 10 discrepancy in this case - between an observation and theoretical prediction is very exciting," said astrophysicist Priyamvada Natarajan of Yale University.

"A key goal of my research has been testing theoretical models with the improving quality of data to find these gaps. It's these kinds of gaps and anomalies that have often revealed that either we were missing something in the current theory, or it points the way to a brand-new model, which will have more explanatory power."

Either way, discovering what's causing the discrepancy between simulation and observation is likely to lead us to a stronger understanding of dark matter.

The research has been published in Science.

Full cover image credit: NASA, ESA, G. Caminha (University of Groningen), M. Meneghetti (Observatory of Astrophysics and Space Science of Bologna), P. Natarajan (Yale University), the CLASH team, and M. Kornmesser (ESA/Hubble)


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; gravity; haltonarp; hubble; science; speedofdark; stringtheory
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To: Stosh
Do black holes reflect, or emit any electromagnetic radiation?

I don't know, but I been told them pesky black hole accretion discs could be kicking off some electromagnetic stuff.

41 posted on 09/11/2020 12:21:53 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: Red Badger

Not to worry. Dark Matter and Dark Energy are just names we use as placeholders while we wait for another Newton or Einstein to come along and explain to us what is really going on out there.


42 posted on 09/11/2020 1:12:04 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: Seruzawa

My unscientific theory is that physics and the rules of nature are much different at the macro level, just like they are on the micro level. Quantum physics on massive steroids.


43 posted on 09/11/2020 1:12:21 PM PDT by An Appeal to Heaven
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To: I want the USA back; Red Badger; SunkenCiv; Kaslin; BenLurkin

Me too. Any theory that says “The magical band of elite sorcerers (er, mystical unknowable multi-string invisible multi-dimension mathematical physicists ) say so but YOU are too plebian to understand it” is no more than magic.

So, 85% of mass, and 80% of energy in the universe cannot be detected at all, but they “have to be there” to make the theory work? Time to get a new theory.

At least with the Creation theory, you only need one coincidence (er, miracle. )


44 posted on 09/11/2020 1:33:12 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE ( I can only donate monthly, but the radical ABCNNBCBS does it every hour on their news.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

She is the perfect black hole.

An invisible hell that sucks in all..


45 posted on 09/11/2020 1:34:40 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE ( I can only donate monthly, but the radical ABCNNBCBS does it every hour on their news.)
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To: Red Badger

“One possible origin for this discrepancy is that we may be missing some key physics in the simulations.”

https://webmail.lerctr.org/~transit/healy/Uh_Yeah.mp3


46 posted on 09/11/2020 1:38:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Red Badger

As much as 85 percent of the matter in the Universe could be dark matter.

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Not new, just more data to affirm. Byronic matter (us) is just the frothy head on a pitcher of beer; dark matter is all the rest.


47 posted on 09/11/2020 3:01:26 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: FLT-bird

Had we raised James Clerk Maxwell to the same status as his disciples Einstein and Tesla, perhaps we would know much more that we do, instead we relegated Maxwell to the dustbin of mathematics


48 posted on 09/11/2020 3:04:21 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ElkGroveDan

"Dark matter matters."

:-)



(And, furthermore, here's a...)



Dark Matter Meter

49 posted on 09/11/2020 3:19:22 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: rightwingcrazy

Now that’s good. I’ll give you a high five and a ping.


50 posted on 09/11/2020 5:00:01 PM PDT by Texaspeptoman (Even cannibals... get fed up with people sometimes.)
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To: Yo-Yo

So speaks 14 billion years of radiant matter privilege. I demand reparations!


51 posted on 09/12/2020 2:01:36 AM PDT by Samuel Smiles
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To: Red Badger

Come to the dark side it is theoretically 85%!

52 posted on 09/12/2020 2:19:51 AM PDT by xp38
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To: PIF

Thank Oliver Heaviside for taking a hatchet to Maxwell’s equations written in Quaternion form, reducing the math to a mere vector calculus description. Maxwell’s 20 equations in 20 variables was reduced to Heaviside’s 4 equations in 2 variables. This partial description of the elephant is only the blind man’s interpretation of encountering a trunk, a leg, an ear in isolation—what is taught today as Maxwell’s work.

https://arxiv.org/abs/math-ph/0307038


53 posted on 09/12/2020 7:24:49 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: An Appeal to Heaven
Or maybe it doesn’t exist at all. After all, there’s only indirect evidence for it, right?

If there's so much dark matter floating around all these galaxies, shouldn't we be able to detect it (or its presence) in our own galaxy? In our own solar system? Seems to me it would be much easier to find this stuff if we look much closer to home, fewer gravitational lensing issues, better resolution, etc etc.
54 posted on 09/12/2020 7:39:40 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: ElkGroveDan

Always be suspicious when experts create invisible bogeyman objects that explain everything but can’t be directly observed.


55 posted on 09/12/2020 7:43:22 AM PDT by jimbo807
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To: Ozark Tom

Hey! Those are my lines! I’m sure you know all we know about the entire electromagnetic spectrum comes from the 4 vector equations Heaviside transformed.

I think the only place any of those original quaternions are being studied is in the Black world, about which we only know that it may exist, but never the extent.

But if it does, then many of the otherwise crazy/impossible statements alleged to have been said by various people who were close to such things may well be true, because those statements compliment the very things things the 200 quaternions postulated.


56 posted on 09/12/2020 7:56:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Robert A Cook PE
At least with the Creation theory, you only need one coincidence (er, miracle. )

Just ask any cosmologist where all the matter came from that caused the "Big Bang".............

57 posted on 09/14/2020 5:09:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: Red Badger

8<)


58 posted on 09/14/2020 8:26:55 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE ( I can only donate monthly, but the radical ABCNNBCBS does it every hour on their news.)
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To: Red Badger

Gads I do love you-alls explanations of gravity, dark matter, quantum leaps and, oh, yes, the quantum/black hole, starry-eyed gravity comparisons... math. Seriously, I do!

Actually I really do admire your thoughts and gibes about the universe as well. Is it really “the” universe or some enormous circle of unending collections then dispersions of black holes, gravity accretions (do they or not?), galaxies...magnetic mountains, plains and vales and in what dimensions?

Often in the dark of night I think of these things. But no one resides close enough to my eternal heart and soul to share my wonderings...I can’t imagine the joy of sharing the darkness of a cool night watching the stars from a mesa top at 7,000 feet in the clarity of the desert and musing...with a love.

Given enough time, after 81 years of being given this gift of life, I...I hope my soul/spirit does understand the way “it works”, at least a tad, so that as “I” wander into the Mystery I am as thrilled as I was today to read your ideas and enjoy your humor....

Maybe the thrill of “ knowing how it works” is inviolate and the end will be as much fun as the effort.


59 posted on 09/15/2020 3:46:01 AM PDT by Bodega
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To: Bodega

Once your life force is merged back with God’s, ALL things are then known......................


60 posted on 09/15/2020 5:06:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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