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Have we been sold a bill of goods? Quite possibly.
1 posted on 08/14/2020 11:10:10 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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As Nortin Hadler said, “If there’s no benefit (for many of these tests and drugs), why tolerate any risk?”


2 posted on 08/14/2020 11:11:19 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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Had to quit taking Lipitor, it was messing with my liver......................


3 posted on 08/14/2020 11:11:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." ... That's why they call it Heaven............)
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK548236/


4 posted on 08/14/2020 11:12:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." ... That's why they call it Heaven............)
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A few people I know are no longer are on statins. One doctor said he would never prescribed them for a woman...but I forgot why women in particular.


5 posted on 08/14/2020 11:15:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I’ll be damned if I ever take that Diabetes inducing medicine!


6 posted on 08/14/2020 11:17:10 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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"Have we been sold a bill of goods? Quite possibly."

Most certainly.

8 posted on 08/14/2020 11:20:03 AM PDT by mlo
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Pharma would never ever ever ever push worthless or harmful drugs, just for profit. Oh no. Never ever.


9 posted on 08/14/2020 11:20:06 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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Try wearing a mask. That fixes everything apparently.


11 posted on 08/14/2020 11:21:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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Time to spread some money around.


16 posted on 08/14/2020 11:29:15 AM PDT by dljordan
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Statins are poison.

100% of the time.

Do what you need to get healthy (healthy diet and exercise) to reduce blood fats.

Avoid poisons.


17 posted on 08/14/2020 11:29:54 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I have it on my bucket list to NEVER become a revenue stream for the Big Bureaucrat-Big Corporate criminal complex by NEVER going on any prescription medications.

They have created all kinds of drugs that don’t actually do anything except create revenue streams for themselves by terrifying old people into believing that they will die if they don’t take fifty-seven pills a day.

News Flash: You are going to die anyway. You can die a slave or a free person. Your choice.


18 posted on 08/14/2020 11:30:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far greater danger from authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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Thank you for posting.

This is more evidence that confirms my own reading.


19 posted on 08/14/2020 11:44:11 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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My levels are very low. At the bottom of the “good” level. I am lucky in this case.


21 posted on 08/14/2020 11:45:30 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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We still don’t really “get” cholesterol. We used to think it was all bad, then we figured some was good and some is bad, but we’re still heavily focused on dietary even though the vast majority of cholesterol in your body is made by your body. And we haven’t really asked if your body is making cholesterol is it actually bad? I mean yeah buildup and clogged arteries are bad, but does one actually lead to the other? And of course statins tend to eat your muscles, including your heart, so is that actually improving your heart health?

Get exercise. Stick to non-statin stuff like fish oil or ginger. And hope for the best.


22 posted on 08/14/2020 11:50:06 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Have we been sold a bill of goods? Quite possibly.

How about an even a bigger con job than Covid 19 and wearing masks.

My Mother and MIL lived into their mid or high 80’s with high levels of killer C.

I have had killer C levels until last fall, and now it is normal. I will be 82 at election time. I walk and stretch.

My wife is 80 with killer C levels and HDL levels like a top athlete. She walks and does stretching exercises.

My wife is a great non professional chef. We live on a low carb diet that is basically the Mediterranean way.

Our Breakfast has smoked salmon and cheese fresh fruit/veggies. Lunch is often leftovers from dinner the nite before.

Dinner runs from salmon or some ocean fish/seafood a couple times a week, to grilled chicken, lamb one night and steak one night, and boneless pork loin. Hamburgers about 2X per month.

In the summertime, she prepares a salad with diced meat or seafood or I grill something for the salad.

In the winter, we have soups from scratch or her cookie sheet/parchment paper with the protein and veggies cooked in the oven at 450 degrees for about 30 minutes.

I fix omelets about 2x a month for dinner and leftovers for breakfast the next day.

Our weight has been basically the same over the years.

Our siblings are in their late 70’s and active. Their killer C levels are higher than ours. They are evolving into our diet styles and still do a fast food about once a week and steak once a week. Bacon and eggs are their breakfast most mornings.

Their FP/IM docs can’t believe that they haven’t died from Killer High C levels. My wife’s bros are like her with great HDL levels. Her younger brother still fits into his Army dress blues from the Nam area and plays tennis doubles a couple of times per week. Their sitting pulse rates are a little higher than cadavers.

It is obvious that their DNA and life styles don’t need to worry about eating real food.


23 posted on 08/14/2020 11:51:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump claims, "That if Biden wins Americans will have to 'learn to speak Chinese'!!")
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Reducing Cholesterol Yields Inconsistent Benefits Despite Guidelines

There seems to be little agreement on anything these days.

Excerpt from: https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/guide/heart-disease-lower-cholesterol-risk#1

"...too much bad cholesterol over time causes atherosclerosis where the arteries become narrowed and blood flow to the heart muscle is slowed down or blocked. The blood carries oxygen to the heart, and if not enough blood and oxygen reach your heart, you may suffer chest pain. If the blood supply to a portion of the heart is completely cut off by a blockage, the result is a heart attack."

Re: Crestor study at - https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2005/21366slr005lbl.pdf

Statins have side effects, which are documented in numerous studies and which affect some people more than other. What statins do well is reduce bad cholesterol.

As with any drug, the patient and his doctor need to discuss its benefits and risks. Ultimately, the patient needs to make an informed decision and decide what's best for him.

26 posted on 08/14/2020 12:04:17 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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Bump for later.


27 posted on 08/14/2020 12:06:13 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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statins are the worst!


28 posted on 08/14/2020 12:07:39 PM PDT by ronniesgal (Q. why did the chicken cross the road? A. It's Trumps fault and you're a racist!)
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I couldnt care less what my cholesterol level is.


33 posted on 08/14/2020 1:05:12 PM PDT by TalBlack
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What??? No way??

Next you are going to tell me we don’t need all those drugs for the kiddies with Attention Deficient Disorder


35 posted on 08/14/2020 1:08:18 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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