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Reducing Cholesterol Yields Inconsistent Benefits Despite Guidelines
American Council on Science and Health ^ | 08/05/20 | Chuck Dinerstein

Posted on 08/14/2020 11:10:10 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX

“Between 2002 and 2013 statin use in the US nearly doubled, cholesterol levels are falling, yet cardiovascular deaths appear to be on the rise.”

(Excerpt) Read more at acsh.org ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cholesterol; cvd; statins
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Have we been sold a bill of goods? Quite possibly.
1 posted on 08/14/2020 11:10:10 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: ConservativeMind

As Nortin Hadler said, “If there’s no benefit (for many of these tests and drugs), why tolerate any risk?”


2 posted on 08/14/2020 11:11:19 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Had to quit taking Lipitor, it was messing with my liver......................


3 posted on 08/14/2020 11:11:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." ... That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Pining_4_TX

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK548236/


4 posted on 08/14/2020 11:12:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." ... That's why they call it Heaven............)
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To: Pining_4_TX

A few people I know are no longer are on statins. One doctor said he would never prescribed them for a woman...but I forgot why women in particular.


5 posted on 08/14/2020 11:15:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Pining_4_TX

I’ll be damned if I ever take that Diabetes inducing medicine!


6 posted on 08/14/2020 11:17:10 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Red Badger

Wow, in that article they almost seemed to shrug off the potential for liver damage. Apparently nothing else matters but taking the drug, even if it has risks and the purported benefits are not really supported by the evidence. Studies like to report outcomes in terms of relative risk reduction instead of absolute, because it makes the outcomes seem better than they are.


7 posted on 08/14/2020 11:18:46 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Pining_4_TX
"Have we been sold a bill of goods? Quite possibly."

Most certainly.

8 posted on 08/14/2020 11:20:03 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Pining_4_TX

Pharma would never ever ever ever push worthless or harmful drugs, just for profit. Oh no. Never ever.


9 posted on 08/14/2020 11:20:06 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Sacajaweau

“One doctor said he would never prescribed them for a woman...but I forgot why women in particular.”

Not only have statins not shown to reduce the risk of a first heart attack, but the data is even more definite for women. Statins show no benefit for women in preventing a heart attack. People who have a family history of extremely high levels of cholesterol due to an inherited condition are the only exceptions.


10 posted on 08/14/2020 11:21:31 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Try wearing a mask. That fixes everything apparently.


11 posted on 08/14/2020 11:21:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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I have a favorable opinion of drug companies, but less so for doctors who have a financial stake in the studies they do. If Dr. X is being paid big bucks by a company to study it’s newest drug, he has a built-in bias.


12 posted on 08/14/2020 11:23:06 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

(slap on forehead)

Why didn’t I think of that? :-)


13 posted on 08/14/2020 11:23:35 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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To: Pining_4_TX
I have a favorable opinion of drug companies, but less so for doctors who have a financial stake in the studies they do. If Dr. X is being paid big bucks by a company to study it’s newest drug, he has a built-in bias.

Unfortunately that has been the case for decades. There is a slimy symbiotic relationship between the FDA and Big Pharma. Those of us in the anti-vaxxer/vaccine resister movement have been shouting about it for quite a long time.


14 posted on 08/14/2020 11:26:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

very cute :)


15 posted on 08/14/2020 11:27:24 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Time to spread some money around.


16 posted on 08/14/2020 11:29:15 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Pining_4_TX

Statins are poison.

100% of the time.

Do what you need to get healthy (healthy diet and exercise) to reduce blood fats.

Avoid poisons.


17 posted on 08/14/2020 11:29:54 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I have it on my bucket list to NEVER become a revenue stream for the Big Bureaucrat-Big Corporate criminal complex by NEVER going on any prescription medications.

They have created all kinds of drugs that don’t actually do anything except create revenue streams for themselves by terrifying old people into believing that they will die if they don’t take fifty-seven pills a day.

News Flash: You are going to die anyway. You can die a slave or a free person. Your choice.


18 posted on 08/14/2020 11:30:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far greater danger from authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Thank you for posting.

This is more evidence that confirms my own reading.


19 posted on 08/14/2020 11:44:11 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead... f)
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To: Pining_4_TX

There is some evidence that statins help reduce stroke risk.


20 posted on 08/14/2020 11:45:02 AM PDT by Rockingham
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