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Male-only draft is constitutional, federal appeals court rules
ktla ^ | 08/13/2020

Posted on 08/13/2020 11:26:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin

A federal appeals court in New Orleans upheld the constitutionality of the all-male military draft system Thursday, citing a 1981 U.S. Supreme Court decision.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans said “only the Supreme Court may revise its precedent.”

The case was argued in March and was the result of a lawsuit by the National Coalition for Men and two men challenging the male-only draft. Their arguments had been that the the 1981 case was decided at a time when women were largely absent from combat.

There was no dissent in Thursday’s ruling from a three-judge panel. Plaintiffs in the case could seek a rehearing before the full court or go to the Supreme Court.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: constitutional; court; draft; maleonly
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To: Magnum44
I agree, but an ever-growing imbalance of privilege and responsibility is neither equal nor complimentary. If a girl wants to join the military, she can. In the event of a real shitshow men won’t have a choice. A girl can terminate a pregnancy if she doesn’t want to have a baby and it’s no harm, no foul. A man has no such option to severe himself from his offspring — in fact, society will call you a deadbeat if try to walk away. I support neither abortion nor a man abandoning his kid, but it’s a pretty glaring example of today’s double standards. There are many examples that clearly show men are faced with the same set of responsibilities as 110 years ago — but none of the privileges. In fact, society as a whole tells men that they’re shit. On the other hand, in today’s climate females are collectively beyond criticism.

You can keep your head down and keep on trucking, but millions of men are looking around at all these contradictions and simply checking out. The so-called “mgtow” movement is exploding. Millions more men are checking out from society, checking out from raising families, checking out from being men. That’s a real cause for concern and it will get worse unless society takes a step back from lunacy and reaffirms normal gender roles. I’m not suggesting that women should lose the vote or being kicked out of the workplace, but we’re at the point where it’s considered sexist to state that men are generally physically stronger than women. Hell, saying that men should man up and protect women is considered sexist. Accepting such contradictory rulings as the one that is the subject of this article, just shrugging your shoulders and living with it, isn’t going to solve the problem.

61 posted on 08/13/2020 1:05:16 PM PDT by TheDandyMan
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To: TheDandyMan
I am not speaking about women, only about men. A woman aborting a child is of course ungodly, but real men dont abandon their children. So I wounldnt even call them men at that point. The evil and temptation to evil around us today is no excuse for falling into that. This is a trying time, to be sure, but God never promised us all we wish for, just the opportunity to make good choices on the journey. And those 'checking out' are failing to meet the challenge of life that God has gifted them with, good times and bad. I say men should man up, call me sexist or whatever you want.
62 posted on 08/13/2020 1:15:23 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: BenLurkin

This ruling was necessary for the case to be re-presented to SCOTUS.

Personally, I have no problem with women registering for the draft. They won’t necessarily be drafted, but they should be registered.

Women are always screaming about equality, so registering for the draft is equality.

There are many, many positions in the military that are not front line combat related that can be performed by women, freeing up a man for the combat duty.

In an all-volunteer military, women now make up 20 percent of the Air Force, 19 percent of the Navy, 15 percent of the Army and almost 9 percent of the Marine Corps. Clearly if there ever is a draft, there are jobs for them to perform.


63 posted on 08/13/2020 1:31:20 PM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Theoria

An immigrant serving in the armed forces has the option to easily become a citizen. So there’s that.


64 posted on 08/13/2020 1:45:40 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: 9YearLurker

>>>So which would you want for your daughter?<<<

If I was in charge I would choose not to vote, bc a female draft is a terrible idea.


65 posted on 08/13/2020 1:46:44 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: BenLurkin

Good. I don’t have to rewrite that code. Honest to Pete, I thought women had to register


66 posted on 08/13/2020 1:47:44 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Magnum44

>>>Some of us still believe in chivalry and the God defined roles of men and women, even if some of the women dont. Voting and defending your country by being drafted into combat are two very different things.<<<

Looking at the Millennial generation show me the men who are chivalrous and show me the women that are deserving of that treatment? It’s a very small pool of men and women from my vantage point. Once the Gex Xers are the old geezers in 20 years nobody will even understand your comment as society will have not seen chivalry and God defined roles in their lifetimes.


67 posted on 08/13/2020 1:51:03 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: Magnum44

” A woman aborting a child is of course ungodly”

How so? You just said the USSC are the oracles of law, so since they backed abortion as being legal then either they are ungodly and therefore the law is or you are wrong that abortion is ungodly. Which is it?


68 posted on 08/13/2020 1:54:01 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: BJ1

Maybe, but all we can do is be the best example we can be. We aren’t responsible for the bad acts of others, just ourselves, in hopes others will follow that example.


69 posted on 08/13/2020 1:55:44 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: CodeToad

No, I said you dont need a court or a law to tell right from wrong. But nice try.


70 posted on 08/13/2020 1:58:30 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: BJ1

Interesting.

How about women who volunteer vs. men who don’t serve?


71 posted on 08/13/2020 2:06:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: CodeToad

“Well, its multiple courts, first the USSC and then upheld in a lower court, so they got it wrong and you are the oracle”

You claimed anyone countermanding the USSC must be an oracle, therefore the USSC must also be oracles.


72 posted on 08/13/2020 2:07:25 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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73 posted on 08/13/2020 2:12:57 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Magnum44

So, you’re demonstrating immaturity issues. Good to know that about you.


74 posted on 08/13/2020 2:14:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: BenLurkin

Helps with the bathroom problem, set up public restrooms for the draftable and non-draftable rather than men-women.


75 posted on 08/13/2020 2:16:54 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: CodeToad

I’m not the one who cant read and inserts his own interpretations into other’s posts just for the sake of starting an argument. So who is it that is immature?


76 posted on 08/13/2020 2:18:05 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: BenLurkin

Well then no women in combat positions


77 posted on 08/13/2020 2:23:40 PM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: Boogieman

the whote knight guilt shaming is supposed to make you be a good little sacrificial serf


78 posted on 08/13/2020 2:50:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Boogieman

jes got the wrong idea pf chivalry

chivalry got warped

chivalry is a code that applies to everyone, ie no one gets special treatment

chivalry is this, you treat others the way you want to be treated, and you are free to treat others the way they treat you

no exemption for women or age

be an ass to someone, it comes back to you, you dont get spared from it if you’re a woman or kid


79 posted on 08/13/2020 2:53:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Magnum44

“Real men obviously dont exist in the National Coalition for Men.”

We have a unisex draft in Israel. It works well.

90% of the military is logistics or support of some kind.

And if it got so bad we our logistics people are fighting, then I’ll take anyone I can get.


80 posted on 08/13/2020 3:01:37 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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