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Male-only draft is constitutional, federal appeals court rules
ktla ^ | 08/13/2020

Posted on 08/13/2020 11:26:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Secret Agent Man

Sure it is. I do get the impulse, from a conservative perspective, to try and prop up what scraps of tradition we have left. And, if we were in a functional society with both sexes holding up their end of the social contract, then these arguments might hold some water.

We’re not living in that society anymore though.


81 posted on 08/13/2020 3:14:15 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

friend we havent been living in a cpuntry like that for almost 200 years


82 posted on 08/13/2020 3:17:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Magnum44

“But I dont want to accuse you of being naive enough to believe that a law passed today obviates or is more relevant than a previous law, just because its in conflict. Thats a living constitution argument.”

That is when you talking about something that is defined in the Constitution. We’re talking here about laws passed by the legislature, so it’s not really a “living Constitution” argument. When the legislature passes a law that contradicts an earlier law, the default assumption is that if there is a conflict, the more recent law reflects the current intent of the legislature (which is what the courts are attempting to determine when they rule on this stuff). Yes, there may need to be a court case to settle a conflict, but often there never is and superceded laws just stay on the books forever without ever being challenged. That’s why we have stupid laws from 100 years ago still on the books saying you can’t eat ice cream cones on Sundays and whatnot.

“No, the conflict is eventually resolved by court. In this case it seems it has been, twice.”

Well, the court has made decisions, but they haven’t resolved the inherent conflict that exists between the two laws. They’ve simply punted it down the road for someone else to worry about, probably because if they resolved the conflict, then a lot of people would get upset, no matter which way they decide to resolve it.


83 posted on 08/13/2020 3:27:52 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Jewbacca

Well everyone in Israel serves, and even the women in uniform, are bad ass. But you have been at a state of war for 70 years. Meanwhile our society has gotten spoiled by having the conflict offshore. That could change if we don’t get control of our borders.


84 posted on 08/13/2020 3:28:52 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well, if chivalry got warped, it got warped a looong time ago. Go look up “courtly love”, that set of ideas was incorporated into chivalry by the medieval era.


85 posted on 08/13/2020 3:33:46 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Magnum44
Some of us still believe in chivalry and the God defined roles of men and women

you need some red pills - bad!!!

86 posted on 08/13/2020 3:47:58 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Boogieman

its before that

they got warped in the medieval ages when the whole romantic love bs got started


87 posted on 08/13/2020 3:56:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BenLurkin

What about “equal rights”..


88 posted on 08/13/2020 4:07:10 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: RedMonqey
As sexist as it may seem, if women are in the battle on front lines then they cannot be in the real battle to ensure their men have their sires born for the peace their men are fighting for.

You're describing a deal that has responsibilities for both women and men:

1. The woman give birth to the man's babies

2. The man fights as needed to keep the woman safe

However, that deal doesn't exist in law when the woman can legally murder the babies of the man between conception and birth.

89 posted on 08/13/2020 5:25:43 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: Secret Agent Man

Consider the archetypal story of Romantic Love:

Cinderella.

In the story, Cinderella wants to be loved for who she is as a person, despite her poverty.

However, she doesn’t pursue the village man who wants to be loved for who he is as a person, despite his poverty.

She pursues the richest young man she can find, the heir to all of the wealth in the kingdom, the prince.


90 posted on 08/13/2020 5:29:36 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: Magnum44

Should a man risk his life to protect Hillary Clinton?

If not, why?


91 posted on 08/13/2020 5:30:56 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: dhuls

Name one reason why any man should risk his life to protect a pro-abortion woman.


92 posted on 08/13/2020 5:32:51 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: Boogieman

Women want entitlements without obligations.


93 posted on 08/13/2020 5:34:02 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: Arcadian Empire
"You're describing a deal that has responsibilities for both women and men:”

You're right, of course. I keep forgetting we're in a different time. a time where it's women(wymen?) who march off to war and the 'men' stay home to have the babies

Silly me. It's a brave new world....


94 posted on 08/13/2020 5:52:40 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Arcadian Empire
Good God, man, are you crazy?


95 posted on 08/13/2020 6:11:12 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: BenLurkin

When we no longer protect our women and use them as combatants cites become fair game. So sorry for the children. The fact that the can serve to actually fight means they are not a protected class.


96 posted on 08/14/2020 12:45:58 PM PDT by Jumper
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