Posted on 06/21/2020 7:59:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin
Europe’s preeminent particle-physics organization will need global help to fund the project, which is expected to cost at least €21 billion and would be a follow-up to the lab’s famed Large Hadron Collider. The new machine would collide electrons with their antimatter partners, positrons, by the middle of the century. The design—to be built in an underground tunnel near CERN’s location in Geneva, Switzerland—will enable physicists to study the properties of the Higgs boson and, later, to host an even more powerful machine that will collide protons well into the second half of the century.
The approval is not yet a final go-ahead. But it means CERN can now put substantial effort into designing a collider and researching its feasibility, while pushing to the backburner research and development efforts for alternative designs for LHC follow-ups, such as a linear eletron-positron collider or one that would accelerate muons.
The decision comes in a document approved today, called European Strategy for Particle Physics Update. It outlines on two stages of development. First, CERN would build an electron-positron collider with collision energies tuned to maximize the production of Higgs bosons and understand their properties in detail.
Later in the century, the first machine would be dismantled and replaced by a proton-proton smasher. That would reach collision energies of 100 teraelectronvolts (TeV), compared with the 16 TeV of the LHC, which also collides protons and is currently the most powerful accelerator in the world. Its goal would be to search for new particles or forces of nature and to extend or replace the current standard model of particle physics. Much of the technology that the final machine will require has yet to be developed, and will be the subject of intensive study in coming decades.
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I don’t get it.
It’s not like physics are a dark art.
Don’t they realize they were given the intellect and ability to build such things from God?
Do they also realize that they know almost NOTHING still.
So many times going WAY back, men of science thought they knew all there was to know.
None have ever or will ever be right.
I guess they can be used as a dark art. I dunno much on the subject.
It is disheartening however.
Yeah that whole biocentrism thing kind of blows my mind.
If not observed, dis it not happen?
Is there a different universe for every possible outcome of every event?
That would be a number that is basically infinite.
I need a drink.
Yeh, open a portal to another dimension and see what comes through. Oh goody demons and ANTIFA.
I once told CERN, “no, you can not transfer data faster then the speed of light, even with compression of the data” across the pond to the universities in the US that they wanted to study the data. This was in the 90’s. They offered more money to achieve the goal, I had to write a technical response, then go to Geneva and tell them it was not technically possible in our current understanding of physics and data transmission over undersea fiber. I am not sure why I needed to explain that considering the audience, but we did win the contract.
I saw the obviously Satanic dedication ceremony of the tunnel-combine that with the statue of Shiva the destroyer, and I’d be inclined to say just shut it all down and demolish it.
They aint gonna stop till they trigger a black hole....
Off em all now.
Oh, I’ve been drinking since the first lecture I heard on the ‘double-slit’.
But to my untutored mind, it seems to indicate - among myriad other possibilities - that an observer somehow *determines* what ‘happens’.
(Which opens up even more mind-boggling issues...)
Dude, It’s a parlor trick. Nothing more.
Oh, I’ve been drinking since the first lecture I heard on the ‘double-slit’...
ROFL!!!
Yeah I love reading about that stuff.
That wacky thing where particles can be incredibly far apart yet what happens to one will instantly happen to the other also...
OK...
Either there is a string-like connection between the two made of something we can’t see or detect yet...
Or we are really living in one big illusion and who the heck knows what’s real? :)
I like the Last Thursday Theory
It was started as an insult to religions but some scientists said it’s just as plausible as some other idea.
It goes like this..there was nothing before last Thursday...and everything you remember was planted in your mind and everything, including you, was created last Thursday. :)
Well, the ancient people to whom we now refer as ‘Gnostics’ thought that the material universe WAS the creation of a ‘lesser’ god; and that there was a Supreme God who could be reached by realising that this ‘world’ is an illusion, and learning to see through it via inner spiritual development.
I don’t think they meant that literally in the way that we might take it; but so far, it has unnerved me just as the double-slit has done - because I don’t think those old Gnostics were stupid guys, and I don’t think our modern physicists have been stupid, either.
That’s ‘Dudette’, to you.
Do not worry. It is said by physicists that if you think you understand quantum mechanics you don’t.
Were you referring to this, the opening ceremony of the Gotthard Tunnel in Switzerland (which connects to CERN)?
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Why does a tunnel need a opening like THIS?!?
I think that’s probably because NOBODY really understands much, yet.
And every time we reach any sound ‘understanding’ of any little thing, there’s going to be another puzzle before us.
This is the inherent problem with the Great God Science, and especially with the politicization of science.
The notion that anything is ever ‘settled’ is nonsense; and it’s erroneous and insulting toward the values - and history - of science itself.
LOL!
A lot of modern ‘artists’ are devoid of any real creativity or talent. They just go (lamely) for spectacle.
I found the whole thing very boring when I first saw it, and I still do. If they were trying to put some subliminal satanic message in there, it was completely lost on me.
I worked on a small part of the super-conducting supercollider project back around Waxahachie TX before Clinton cancelled it. (Because it was being built in Texas. Not in democrat state.)
What was that budget? 40 billion or so?
What was wasted on nothing on California’s high speed train to nowhere? 7 billion?
For example, by the early 20th Century, classical physics worked for almost everything of consequence to traditional life and ordinary perception, but then experiments with radiation showed that the atom was composed of smaller particles. New mysteries appeared, and in a remarkable burst of insight, Einstein explained that light was divisible into color spectra due to the energy of emission of photons as atoms cooled.
After decades of pondering and testing the double-slit experiment, physicists now mostly accept that consciousness is required to explain material phenomena and material existence itself. The implications are recognized in that profession, which now tends to have a relatively high rate of religious belief in comparison to the social sciences.
Indeed, the standard model of physics has been referred to as philosophically a form of panpsychism. And it has been said that physics is now not just an effort to learn God's rules for the Universe, but also a search for proof that God Himself exists. And so I am all for bigger particle accelerators.
Please tell me that we’re not going to help fund this stupid thing. We did right in cancelling the Super-Conducting Super-Collider. We have a right to ask what we’re getting for our money. Considering the lack of anything meaningful from the LHC, that question should be asked early and often. (Reference the book “The Higgs Fake”, https://www.amazon.com/Higgs-Fake-Particle-Physicists-Committee-ebook/dp/B00FOU0CXG/ref=cm_cr_srp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8. I swear it’s not foil-hat conspiracy crap.)
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