The Bizarre Handling of Coronavirus and the Obvious Destruction of the United States of America

freerepublic.com ^ | 3/31/20 | a little elbow grease

[a little elbow grease]

The bizarre handling of Coronavirus and the obvious destruction of the United States of America......

I find myself seventy three years old here in Pittsburgh and deeply worried about the present and future of our country.

As the days go by the problems ahead for the nation seem bleaker.

My wife and I are Trump people yet this entire ugly event seems bigger and more evil than even he and his administration can solve.

The quote below sums up the feeling I have about how the American people are being treated. I really cannot see a way out of this. The evil plan to destroy our country seems too big and well planned. I hope I am wrong.

Any thoughts?

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“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth.”

”This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

-- C.S. Lewis

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As an aside, one question we might want to ask is, “Are people dying WITH coronavirus, or are people dying FROM coronavirus?

[calenel]

“I just looked up how many die normally in the US and the quote is 109 per day.”

The daily average body count is around 6,500 to 7,000 in the US from all causes.

109 is a middlin’ flu day for in-season flu deaths.

Over 666 (!) died of CCP-19 yesterday. Six flu days stacked on top of each other. Been trending up for a week.

Is it going to take a 7,000 death day to wake people up?

“One state shut everything up till the day after the Republican convention... think it was VA.. not sure .. now, isn’t that convenient.”

President Trump has already secured the nomination. All the challengers have dropped out, not that any were ever a threat. Looks like everybody in VA will have time to watch the Republican Convention on TV.

“I’ve lived in quite a few bad times in this country and I’ve never seen the streets emptied and everything closed. for what reason is it that way now...to stop the virus.. and what about the ones prior to this one.... it just does not make sense to me..”

Well, first, t’s NOT the flu. But for comparison purposes, the last pandemic, in 2009: In the first month following the first death from H1N1 in the US, 10-15 people died from H1N1 in the US. In the first month following the first death from CCP-19 in the US, about 3,400 people died from CCP-19 in the US.

And people are still dying from the flu, too, as well as all the regular causes.

So, there you have it.

[frnewsjunkie]

Trump has an uncanny way of getting it right... he seems to be ahead of most... and he listens to opinions. but he’s the one who makes the decisions... I”m sure the election plays a part in a lot of thinking... he has to win to keep on with his agenda..and i’d be sure he has it won... but you never know between now and November.

I don’t think biden will make it to Nov and who will the dems sub in... if it would be mrs obama, it would give mr obama a 3rd term... and there are still a lot of people fooled by him and would vote for her/him all over again. all of Trump’s achievements would be forgotten and the media has been working on that for 3 years..

I’m watching DJT’s biography... interesting.. it’s on A and E...he’s handsome in those days.. his blond headed son, Eric, looks like he did at that age.. and so does the 15 yr old son...

[Vigilantcitizen]

Bullshit.

This is without a doubt man made. Without a doubt.

Back last CHristmas, when Wuhan was entering the sheer horror phase of this outbreak, when the first young recovered were dropping dead in mid step all over the city, NK leader Kim warned Trump publically ,”Maybe we will send Trump a nice Christmas present in the form of a strategic weapon like the world has never seen.

How many natural virus have you ever heard of that has 5-14 days of asymptomatic transmission?

How many natural virus do you know of that the elderly are the worst affected but children aren’t, they just walk around unknowingly infecting people for days?

How many natural virus does recovery not confer immunity?

How many virus do you know of that can change it’s entire structure into 3 totally different virus types in it’s life cycle.

China is calling it man made and said our military planted it during the military games in Wuhan last October.

Google event 201 and Bill Gates.

This is without a doubt man made. The latin root of quarantine is “quaran”, for quarter of a year, for the period ships were required to quarantine in port after the black plague nearly wiped out Europe 500 years ago.

500 years ago we learned how to deal with outbreaks of unknown disease vectors, strict quarantine.

Either the entire leadership of Europe is bone stupid and little old me knows more about medical history than they do, or they deliberately left air travel to China open to ensure the virus spread enough to do what they intended.

If the leadership of Europe and everyone but Trump in the US wanted to keep this in China, all they had to do was halt all international air travel from China. Trump was alone in doing this.

If anyone but Trump had been President, all our major cities would already be beyond Italy.

The cdc has been more than useless. South Korea and Singapore have done much better against this because they are serious and they have more than enough tests to be serious.

The cdc, and their 6 billion dollar budget, demanded to handle the US testing effort early on itself. It was criminally subpar and ineffective.

Just this past week, the cdc and Ga HHS arrranged and comped a flight home for two elderly people on a cruise that tested positive without telling anyone. The elderly couples daughter called channel 2 news in Atlanta LIVID that her parents were put on a commercial jet. When the reporter called the CDC, they said ,”The couple were not infectious to others because their fever had been broke 3 days.”

For anyone infected in South Korea, Singapore, and China to be considered recovered and released from isolation requires 14 DAYS after the last positive test. Not end of symptoms, 14 days after last positive test, which is usually several days after symptoms end.

Not only is this man made, everyone in your government and media not named Trump or Pence is trying to ensure every American gets infected by bullshitting people into a false sense of security.

It is man made. It was deliberately released. While the CCP is involved, the shot callers who ran this op are right here in the good ole USA and Europe. The only way this is gonna stop is testing everyone in the US in the major cities and suburbs, and strict isolation of all positive results.

Here we are more than month into the outbreak here in the US and the cdc is still half assing it. People are still doing stupid shit in large numbers because “It’s just the flu” and “Muh economy” and “It’s a hoax”. Florida beaches were packed with spring breakers last week. People are still going on cruises because they are cheap. Thousand crowded the docks in NYC to watch the USNS Comfort arrive.

Even Freepers, a group with higher average intelligence than most Americans, have a dedicated group of Flubros blinded by their fear of the truth.

I have zero hope that this is gonna be contained anytime soon. Too many people were duped from the jump, and now are too proud to admit they were wrong and too scared to face the truth.

The sooner everyone faces the truth of this and gets serious, the sooner we can recover and start bringing Gods wrath to those responsible in DC, Europe, China and NK.

[frnewsjunkie]

Yeah, that number was pretty small, compared.. so they should give the deaths from the virus..most do not know how many die a day.. and it looks like it’s real bad ....just put it in perspective..

and I’m old enough to have lived through a lot and the streets have never been bare like they are now. It puts the scare in folks who don’t know why it’s all falling apart over this one... I’ve heard some say it’s the end... it must seem so to them, because it’s something that changes the day and life.

[Crucial]

Trump has very good instincts. He’s very good at calculating outcomes. Someone said he’s never seen anyone move through a decision tree like Trump.

Anyway, I don’t think Chewbacca really has a chance. She will be destroyed by memes and she’s not bright enough to debate Trump. Bernie might just come back and take the nomination. Who knows?

[MHGinTN]

The media are working Cuomo like someone ordered them to hype him for biden's replacement.

The shut down has been necessary to get supply lines set up for healthcare system. That is running well and social distancing and self imposed isolating has flattened the curve sufficiently. Now we have a drug regimen the can quickly lower viral load so the patient immune system can kill the circulating virus. ...

Folks, we are winning this war upon our society, whatever the origin. I am predicting the shut down ends in two more weeks and our people go back to MAGA! We all probably have hydro chloroquine+ Zinc in our fut!sure, near future. This is America. We identify what attacks and we retaliate! We will kill this scourge soon.

[MHGinTN]

Make that hydroxychloroquine + Zinc in our future as we go back to work.

[sbnsd]

bkmk

[JonPreston]

Wear a mask for the exact same reason hospital staff does.

[TurkeyLurkey]

I was wondering how long, if even at all, it would take someone on this thread (with all the various “solutions” offered)to check the link out. So, I went to bed.

The first thing I thought of when I woke up this morning was, “I wonder if anyone checked it out and bothered to watch it and realized what/who was behind these things and what God had told us in His Word.

Your response gave me hope that maybe, just maybe, more people might watch it and learn something—quietly and thoughtfully seeking the truth.

The video was one of 5 or 6 in the series, an excellent use of time, especially right now.

[Ann Archy]

It’s Cloward-Piven on steroids!! And it has been SO EASY for these Dems to take away our FREEDOMS and LIVLIHOODS!

[TurkeyLurkey]

The problem behind “the problem(s)” is explained in the video. Worth watching. See comment #165 & #190 also.

[enumerated]

“They quoted the death rate on Hannity’s show as 0.66%. That’s 1 in 151 cases.”

And that’s CONFIRMED cases. For every confirmed case, there may be 10 unreported cases, or 100, or 1000, or 10000!

The true mortality rate is unknown, but we do know this: It is orders of magnitude lower than the .66% rate being reported.

We should not be surprised that the government would report an exaggerated mortality rate.

Pressure from an adversarial media makes the government (certainly any Republican administration) predisposed to overreact - they have no choice when the question put to them 24/7 is “Will this be Trump’s Katrina or Trump’s Chernobyl?”

What choice do they have? None. So they are going to highball death estimates, raise expectations and prepare the public for the worst. They are now saying anywhere from 100,000 to 220000 deaths are possible. Then they say they hope for far less.

See what they are doing? They can’t afford to be wrong on the upside, so they throw out a huge worst case scenario. The truth is they have no idea, and there is no science behind those huge numbers - only fear of undershooting their estimates and looking underprepared.

The good news is that if I’m right, the actual impact over the next two weeks will price to be far less than what we are being prepared to expect. Once that becomes obvious, the panic and overreaction will quickly subside.

We could get back to work much, much sooner than the 30 days.

[enumerated]

Damn auto-correct - “Price” should have been “prove”

[a little elbow grease]

Pressure from an adversarial media makes the government (certainly any Republican administration) predisposed to overreact - they have no choice when the question put to them 24/7 is “Will this be Trump’s Katrina or Trump’s Chernobyl?”

What choice do they have? None. So they are going to highball death estimates, raise expectations and prepare the public for the worst. They are now saying anywhere from 100,000 to 220000 deaths are possible. Then they say they hope for far less.

See what they are doing? They can’t afford to be wrong on the upside, so they throw out a huge worst case scenario. The truth is they have no idea, and there is no science behind those huge numbers - only fear of undershooting their estimates and looking underprepared.

The good news is that if I’m right, the actual impact over the next two weeks will price to be far less than what we are being prepared to expect. Once that becomes obvious, the panic and overreaction will quickly subside.

We could get back to work much, much sooner than the 30 days.

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Okay, I'm for that. I guess we'll see.

I still wonder why California's #'s are so relatively low so far ...... with all the flights coming to and from China for a long time.

Any thoughts?

[a little elbow grease]

"It may be time to put all Americans (esp. first responders/health care workers) on the HCQ/Z-Pack cocktail."

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That's a pretty good idea.

[a little elbow grease]

We are in a depression right now and worse. Fear of each other? It’s all cascading both in the economy and among people. -------------------------

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seems true

[LateBoomer]

Thanks, I needed that.

[a little elbow grease]

reading comprehension is your friend .....

[a little elbow grease]

Here is what happened: We had a roaring economy. Trump was declared victor in the Impeachment Hoax debacle.

The Deep State (New World Order), in coordination with the Liberal Mainstream Media, and Democratic Party, initiated the COVID-19 HOAX (aka, the flu) to destroy Trump.

Initially, it was working.

Eventually, Trump was clued-in and decided to go "All-In" and outsmart the Establishment, and become the CHINA VIRUS COMMANDER IN CHIEF.

Trump will ride it out and be elected to a 2nd term where he will, once again, Make America Great Again (MAGA).

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" Eventually, Trump was clued-in and decided to go "All-In" and outsmart the Establishment, and become the CHINA VIRUS COMMANDER IN CHIEF. Trump will ride it out and be elected to a 2nd term where he will, once again, Make America Great Again (MAGA)."

--- I guess we'll see.

(Meanwhile Cuomo sits in a chair in the middle of a room every day and moans about everything that he doesn't have. What a pathetic dweeb he has become.)