Posted on 03/30/2020 4:54:38 PM PDT by dangus
You might want to practice VERY CAREFUL self-quarantine if you've got diarrhea, if I'm right in the way I'm connecting news stories. (You might say that's a "big if," but from predicting the 2010 landslide to the election of Pope Francis to the peaking of China's and then South Korea's coronavirus, I think my track record on FR is pretty good. On the other hand, if some sizeable portion of the coronavirus tests being used are serological, I'm prepared to say "oooooops.")
See, a study from the American Journal of Gastroenterology found that of 200 studied patients in Hubei, 50% of them experienced gastro-intestinal symptoms, such as diarrhea, nausea, stomach aches or vomiting. Basically, your "stomach bug." Six (3%) never developed any other symptoms. These were among people HOSPITALIZED for sickness. How often do you go to the HOSPITAL for a stomach bug?
The Journal of the AMA had similar findings. And coronavirus has been found in feces (poop). Dr. Susan Klein, spokesperson for the Infectious Diseases Society of America flat-out called for tracking diarrhea as a way of limiting the coronavirus.
So several days ago, I went to my doctor with a bout of diarrhea because it wasn't getting better, despite my refusal to watch CNN. Having read these, I asked my doctor if I should be careful because diarrhea is occasionally a first symptom of coronavirus. "No, from what you tell me, it sounds like your typical bacterial diarrhea," she assured me. And then gave me medicine for coronavirus.
(Continued in comments... what's this about bo threads longer than 300 words???)
It does. And farmers blows and all sorts of disgusting rural hygiene non-practices in an urban environment. Virus distribution is just one more aspect of the “revolution”.
Did her nausea turn productive?
I thought I herd you get the urge, but it doesn’t cause you
to actually do it.
My smell is very poor. If I smell gas everyone is probably already dead. I always thought my taste was pretty weak until I experienced a day with truly NO taste after my first seizure. The only thing I could put in my mouth was ice cream.
They call this a “Poop Thread.”
I was raised in a country area of east Texas and we all had strong country accents.
When I was a very little girl, before I could read, I thought that diarrhea was “die rear” because that’s how it was pronounced and it made your rear feel like it was gonna die.
:-)
Ah, thanks for the “up-date”.
I think we may have this mystery in the Can. :)
1992, in downtown Philadelphia. Those street cart vendors. I thought I was going to die and my insides were trying to become outsiders. Contaminated sugary fruits can be disastrous because the body wants to pass the poisons straight thru. The sugars go right into the intestine unconverted. The result in a dark, warm, ero oxygen, bacteria filled gut is a “Bloom” of e-coli or stapholococcis or whatever other nasty microbial life that isn’t supposed to be there. The sugar sets it off like opening a shaken can of beer.
Ciprofloxacin trials for malaria have had sufficiently poor results that it is not commonly used as an antimalarial.
That both drugs have antiparasitic activity, one highly active and one not so much, it represents a giant leap of faith that this weak similarity might predict possible antiviral activity.
Hydroxychloroquine is a bicyclic quinoline with a long aliphatic side chain. Ciprofloxacin is a tricyclic quinoline.
Which portion of the hydroxychloroquine is responsible for its antiviral effect? If it is the cyclic portion of the of the molecule (areas that are similar to ciprofloxacin) you may have a point. But if is the dissimilar portion of the molecule, your hypothesis is wrong.
In view of the fact that the exact mechanism of hydrochloroquine’s antiviral activity is largely unknown, I would say that your hypothesis is on tenuous grounds.
Now, as an Infectious Diseases specialist, I am well aware that patients may present with atypical symptoms. In fact, I have a young adult patient who had a viral syndrome with self-limited diarrhea, whose symptom complex makes we wonder whether he is an atypical Wuhan virus patient.
When a serologic test becomes available, I intend to test him.
Or Taco Bell.
Bro, i feel for you, that does not sound like any kind of fun. Maybe it’s genetics or some other fluke. I have travelled all over the world, eaten just about anything you can imagine. In particluar I have spent a considerable amount of time in Thailand (I have a house and my fiance lives there). I have eaten from countless food carts and street kitchens, never got sick. But, I am careful when i eat at these venues, only fruit from fresh in the morning and no meats unless I can see them cooking it.
Also, I am 61 years old now, somewhat of a heavy smoker. I have never gotten a flu vaccine but have never had a flu, maybe a two day cold in the last 30 years.
Quinolone antibiotic (Flouroquinolone)
In fact one of the side effects of Hydroxychloroquine is "... mild nausea and occasional stomach cramps with mild diarrhea." Not an antibiotic and not likely something a doctor would Rx for diarrhea.
You nailed it. 3PM on a Friday afternoon. I am super careful now. No buffets. No food carts. Sappy fruits or rind fruits I soak in a chlorine water wash before cutting them up.
Yikes! If I can quote out of context like that, I should get one of those 6-figure reporter jobs!
This seems to be the cure for constipation. These used to be listed as “Haribo” brand, but maybe they asked Amazon to change the reviews.
“These things are delicious, but they make my ass sound like Chewbacca.”
And that is one of the milder of 1,485 (!) reviews.
20% of SARS patients (2002-2003) had diarrhea, so it’s not unreasonable to think that this related virus could cause it too.
Antibiotics easily cause diarrhea, so if people get azithromycin for COVID-19 it will probably make that symptom worse.
The former is an antibiotic (effective against bacteria) the latter is antimalarial and an amebacide.
And the author, instead of publishing this nonsense could have done a google search and easily discovered these facts.
Getting our septic tank drained on 4/8 to ensure capacity will not cause a problem.
You’re right that Cipro isn’t used commonly as an anti-malarial but the reason turns your argument on its head: it’s so similar to chloroquine that when malaria is resistant to chloroquine, it’s also resistant to Cipro.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1869847
(Amazingly, several articles pissing on the effectiveness of Cipro for malaria cited this article without mention that the study was performed on chloroquine-resistant malaria, so the fault is not yours. )
Largely unknown?... watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7F1cnWup9M&feature
>> In fact one of the side effects of Hydroxychloroquine is “... mild nausea and occasional stomach cramps with mild diarrhea.” Not an antibiotic and not likely something a doctor would Rx for diarrhea. <<
Cipro also has those exact side-effects. *eyeroll*
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