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Impact of the Black Death on Society and Culture
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Posted on 03/16/2020 5:20:22 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

The aftermath of the plague created a series of religious, social, and economic upheavals, which had profound effects on the course of European history. It took 150 years for Europe’s population to recover, and the effects of the plague irrevocably changed the social structure, resulting in widespread persecution of minorities such as Jews, foreigners, beggars, and lepers. The uncertainty of daily survival has been seen as creating a general mood of morbidity, influencing people to “live for the moment.”

Because 14th-century healers were at a loss to explain the cause of the plague, Europeans turned to astrological forces, earthquakes, and the poisoning of wells by Jews as possible reasons for the plague’s emergence. No one in the 14th century considered rat control a way to ward off the plague, and people began to believe only God’s anger could produce such horrific displays. Giovanni Boccaccio, an Italian writer and poet of the 14th century, questioned whether plague was sent by God for human’s correction, or if it came through the influence of the heavenly bodies. Christians accused Jews of poisoning public water supplies in an effort to ruin European civilization. The spreading of this rumor led to complete destruction of entire Jewish towns, but it was caused simply by suspicion on the part of the Christians, who noticed that the Jews had lost fewer lives in the Plague due to their hygienic practices. In February 1349, 2,000 Jews were murdered in Strasbourg. In August of the same year, the Jewish communities of Mainz and Cologne were exterminated.

There was a significant impact on religion, as many believed the plague was God’s punishment for sinful ways. Church lands and buildings were unaffected, but there were too few priests left to maintain the old schedule of services. Over half the parish priests,

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: blackplague; bubonicplague; china; coronavirus; covid19; epidemic; godsgravesglyphs; history; kag; maga; pandemic; sarscov2; theplague; trump
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To: Zhang Fei
The world is experiencing a great falling away. It started in Western Europe, but now it's here. Maybe there will be a great revival down the road, but I think it's quite possible that we already experienced the big one the Bible told us about with the Jesus movement in the 60's that is dying out now.

When the Son of Man comes will He find faith on the earth? (Luke 18.8)

21 posted on 03/16/2020 5:54:50 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of the Great King!!!)
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To: Hieronymus
Could be. My gramps told me not to believe everything your read and half of what you see. Now as for the flat Earth, this space photo - but I don't believe it because you can't see the elephants riding on top of that big turtle.

Flat_Earth

22 posted on 03/16/2020 5:55:39 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Zhang Fei

And this man made contagion kills those that still believe in God and country interestingly enough.


23 posted on 03/16/2020 5:59:06 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Billthedrill

[Lots to learn there. Best to you! ]


Same to you. I think the principal reason for the high mortality rates of the past during epidemics has to do with persistent malnutrition. In the best of times, the average person barely had enough to eat, and in hard times, he went hungry. This meant a host of nutritional deficiencies that left his immune system severely compromised. When a breadwinner was struck down by disease, his productivity was severely compromised even when he wasn’t bed-ridden. This meant further nutritional deficiency, hastening the ravages of disease, which eventually led to entire families and perhaps villages getting wiped out.

The Green Revolution a century ago means that 1% of the population produces enough food to make the other 99% obese, with enough surplus to export to godforsaken places like China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution

So the likelihood is that malnutrition will not be the factor it was in the past, when 40% or more of the population was involved in agriculture even stateside, as late as the turn of the 20th century.


https://www.strategy-business.com/blog/US-Farms-Still-Feed-the-World-But-Farm-Jobs-Dwindle?gko=8741c
[It has long been an iconic U.S. industrial sector. It used to employ a very large proportion of the workforce — especially in the Midwest — and provide wages to people without advanced education. But over the decades, thanks to technology and modernization, employment has fallen persistently. In good years and bad, through war and peace, expansion and recession, the industry has slashed millions of jobs. Time was, virtually everybody either worked in this industry or knew somebody who did. But now? Probably only about 2 percent of workers toil in this sector.

Is this another tale of decline?

Well, it depends on how you look at it. Because I’m not talking about the embattled U.S. manufacturing sector. I’m talking about the world-beating U.S. agriculture sector.

Last week, we noted an apparent contradiction: The U.S. manufacturing sector produces near-record amounts of materials, measured by the dollar value of output, but employs far fewer people than it did several decades ago. This dichotomy is even more pronounced in agriculture. But the difference is that, on both a global and national basis, people tend to regard U.S. agriculture as an extremely healthy, world-beating sector: highly industrialized, remarkably efficient, an exporter that feeds the world.

It’s little appreciated now, but the U.S. was, for its first century, essentially an agricultural economy. (Hat-tip to an s+b reader for directing me to these great very long-run charts.) In the 19th century, well over 50 percent of the workforce labored on the farm. Yes, there were machines: the cotton gin, the thresher, the first tractors. But by and large, at the start of the 20th century, the U.S. needed a lot of people to farm a lot of land. In 1900, about 40 percent of the U.S. workforce toiled on farms. And you didn’t need a lot of education to qualify for these positions. (Less than 10 percent of the U.S. population had graduated high school.)]


24 posted on 03/16/2020 6:00:43 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

It’s not the Black Plague. It’s dangerous, but we know where it comes from and how it spreads. Even if we were to do what the butflubros want and ignore it, it wouldn’t kill as high a proportion of the population. It might kill more people in absolute terms, but 13 out of 14 of us would still be here.


25 posted on 03/16/2020 6:05:02 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It didn’t come on China’s road. It came on airplanes.


26 posted on 03/16/2020 6:06:30 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I recommend Barbara Tuchman’s great book on the effect of the plague on Europe titled “A Distant Mirror”. Informative read.


27 posted on 03/16/2020 6:08:51 PM PDT by caper gal 1
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To: Nateman

“This virus has been hyped to trash the economy so that Trump can lose, or more likely, make the loss plausible after they steal it.”

The media surely hyped it, but then, 150+ countries have cases and most are taking “extreme” measures to combat it. So maybe the hype isn’t totally misplaced.

Blaming it on anybody but the Chinese government should be smacked down, though.


28 posted on 03/16/2020 6:09:41 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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To: SkyDancer

And where does the water to replace what falls off the edge come from? Aren’t sea levels rising?

Conversely, this could be used to counter the rising sea levels myth. Many liberals would believe it.


29 posted on 03/16/2020 6:11:29 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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To: calenel

Actually gravity prevents it from falling off and it just hangs there like a curtain.


30 posted on 03/16/2020 6:12:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Zhang Fei

Good question about epidemics and increase in faith. We shall see.


31 posted on 03/16/2020 6:15:41 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: calenel

The rest of the world’s reaction is proof of the influence of American media. Other viruses where just as bad during the Obama regime but the motivation of the left was to cover for Obama’s failures.


32 posted on 03/16/2020 6:21:36 PM PDT by Nateman ( Unless the left is screaming you are doing it wrong.)
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To: calenel

[It didn’t come on China’s road. It came on airplanes.]


What’s interesting is that at 5m, the US has 16x Italy’s 300,000-strong ethnic Chinese population:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Americans#Population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_people_in_Italy

And yet stateside coronavirus infections remain a fraction of Italy’s, even though the US’s (presumably) Chinese-American Patient Zero arrived in the US on January 19, at around the same time as Italy’s German Patient Zero (of indeterminate ethnicity) showed up in Northern Italy:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-03-09/how-coronavirus-spread-from-patient-zero-in-seattle
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-scientists/coronavirus-may-have-reached-italy-from-germany-scientists-say-idUSKBN20Y35B

And that remains the case even in New York City, which has 600,000 ethnic Chinese in its 300 sq miles. That’s double the ethnic Chinese in all of Italy 116,000 sq miles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_in_New_York_City


33 posted on 03/16/2020 6:28:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: SkyDancer

Allowing the rat populations to explode in cities.


34 posted on 03/16/2020 6:30:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: aquila48

Plaque ... that nasty bubonic plaque.


35 posted on 03/16/2020 6:34:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: SkyDancer

I was told that was a myth but don’t think so.


36 posted on 03/16/2020 6:37:06 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Hieronymus

Which side of the banjo do you carve first? Where do you put the batteries in the hatchet when you want to use it? Panicked, running around like a snail on speed.


37 posted on 03/16/2020 6:38:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

38 posted on 03/16/2020 7:29:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Zhang Fei

One of the odd things about the bubonic plague laws that it tended to kill younger people, not the elderly. It is thought that the elderly had built up immunity’s over the years and we’re better able to survive and the young.


39 posted on 03/16/2020 9:01:45 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine Do you think we have a chan)
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To: Zhang Fei; calenel; Billthedrill; caper gal 1; Jane Long; ClearCase_guy; SunkenCiv; All

Both Italy and Iran currently suffering heavily have strong recent ties to China. The leather goods industry near Milan has workers who went home to China over the holidays. Most of Iran’s international commerce is now with China. An Iranian from Qom flew back from China bringing a case to that city where the devote lick the screen around the local saint’s tomb. Now a Qom cemetery has a 100 yard ditch for bodies. Chinese have been in US far longer than Italy and Iran, and families probably celebrate the New Year in US. Saw that Italy is not identifying the dead as Chinese to prevent prejudice. Below are some interesting links.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2020/03/16/coronavirus-map-how-to-track-coronavirus-spread-across-the-globe/#3fad48faf980 [An excellent series of maps showing distribution and figures on cases.

I spoke with my son in Puerto Rico this evening after I read that the govt. closed the beach. I asked him about the big pharmaceuticals manufacture business that used to be there. He says while some drugs are still made there, a complex about 5 miles square in the southern part of the island has been abandoned for some years now. We should not be depending on China for 80% of our medicines.

https://apnews.com/2d57b506106f131418c7c846d20babc1 [ Serious restrictions and fines, and only 5 sick and no dead.

I also spoke with my military son about Vitamin C experiments China is doing to test the value of high dose C for severely ill Covid 19 victims. He said there were actually U-tube videos about this which have now been removed by Google mgt. Large shipments of C were made to Wuhan, and China has said they are not going to ship more to US, they need it themselves.

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=228745


40 posted on 03/16/2020 10:27:55 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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