Posted on 03/02/2020 4:25:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
Coronavirus panic has anxious New Yorkers swarming drugstores and supermarkets for germ-killers. And with public-health specialists stressing the importance of keeping your hands clean during a viral outbreak, hand soaps and sanitizers are flying off the shelves.
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“From what we know about this coronavirus, it’s similar to [previous epidemics of] SARS [severe acute respiratory syndrome] and MERS [Middle East respiratory syndrome], so it should not be that difficult of a microorganism to kill,” Dr. Nahid Bhadelia, medical director of the special pathogens unit at Boston Medical Center, tells The Post. “Soap and water, and alcohol-based hand sanitizers, can kill it.”
As for what’s most effective, she and other experts agree that washing your hands is generally the better choice: It’s more effective at removing stubborn grime — which bugs can cling to, and potentially feed on — and at killing certain pathogens. Lathering up will also help you ward off more than coronavirus. “It’s going to protect you from other infectious diseases, too, like the flu and diarrheal diseases,” Bhadelia says.
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Hand sanitizer is okay to take along in the car (or for women, a purse). Remember that it doesn’t decrease a germ load instantly, though. It takes a few minutes. The stuff is largely inappropriate in hospitals, IMO. Disgusting to see young slobs with druggie tattoos and no gloves using the stuff between patients.
If there is a clean restroom (good luck finding one), soap and warm water works best until you grab the door or its handle to leave the rest room.
The hand sanitizers are easier to use and probably less apt to get germy or virusey.
Kaiser with a lot of IDs and ID rns has the hand sanitizers everywhere for staff and patients.
They still use hot water and soap to scrub down if they are doing a procedure or handling the patient.
Good idea!
I just soak my head in a vat of everclear. ...lol
I wash my hands then give them a squirt of hand sanitizer. Sometimes the humidity left by washing your hands with soap and water alone is not good (not to mention drying them on a re-used towel), although probably an antibacterial soap would help. This is not a bad idea at any time, btw, corona virus or not.
Speaking of anti-contamination strategies, I had to laugh about NYC and its anti-plastic bags law soon to go into effect...reusable bags (cloth or paper) are virtual microbial hothouses. You pick up something touched by many different hands, put it in with packages of ground beef or chicken, put all of these things on your lettuce or other raw greens...and...e-coli, at least. I read that the reusable bags are a major risk for food contamination. But NY is so obsessed with the current political war on petroleum products that who cares about the other implications.
Antibacterial soap is over-used, and kills off too many of the good bacteria on your skin. Regular soap and water, along with vigorous washing of the hands for at least 10 seconds, is very effective against pathogens. Other than that, the most important step is to shut off the water with a paper towel. If you use public facilities, and you turn off the water with your hand, you just re-contaminated your hand with whatever is on that faucet handle, including every germ on the hands of the last bunch of people who turned it on, with dirty hands.
Also, use lotion several times daily, because frequent hand washing can make your hands dry and cracked, which will give germs more surface area to contaminate.
I wash my hands then give them a squirt of hand sanitizer. Sometimes the humidity left by washing your hands with soap and water alone is not good (not to mention drying them on a re-used towel), although probably an antibacterial soap would help. This is not a bad idea at any time, btw, corona virus or not.
Speaking of anti-contamination strategies, I had to laugh about NYC and its anti-plastic bags law soon to go into effect...reusable bags (cloth or paper) are virtual microbial hothouses. You pick up something touched by many different hands, put it in with packages of ground beef or chicken, put all of these things on your lettuce or other raw greens...and...e-coli, at least. I read that the reusable bags are a major risk for food contamination. But NY is so obsessed with the current political war on petroleum products that who cares about the other implications.
***until you grab the door or its handle to leave the rest room.***
How true. Our company placed the trash container by the door, then after washing, you dry on the paper towel, you then grab the door handle with the paper towel, open it, and then discard the towel in the trash can.
Bourbon is better
Haul your own shower along. Get under it and wash down with a solution of pure bleach.
and clip those sh@t hooks...
My elbow is very handy for turning off the faucet, or I turn it off with a paper towel protecting my hand. My mother taught me these things when I was a little child. What is wrong with people these days?
Even ethanol alcohol, in booze, is better than nothing. Think 100 proof or more, which is about half alcohol content. There are some distilled products that are close to 200 proof = almost 100% alcohol.
My wife and I about an hour ago bought most of our weekly groceries from our local Walmart curb pickup service.
We got the last package of name brand paper towels, we discussed what was out of stock in the store with the young guy who brought our purchases out to our vehicle. They cruise the store with an order and fill it. So they know what was/is out when they checked stock for each order.
They had a few outages, nothing like their big store in another city, where the parking lot was full from Friday am to today like on black Friday.
His store is keeping up fairly well, we had 3 items out of 25, that were gone. The small cans of corn, beans and other veggies were gone.
He said the most weird event was this morning when they got a pallet of hand sanitizers refill bottles. (store has basically been out for 2 weeks).
As soon as the driver/whom ever sat the pallet of hand sanitizer down in the otc aisle, 3 guys with sunglasses came up and bought the whole pallet. They had the trucker or whom, ever take the pallet to the autocheck line and paid with a credit card. Then, they tipped the driver to take the pallet out and load it into their plain white van.
The store is basically out of tp, clorox of any type, paper towels and paper plates and hand sanitizer.
I agree with everything you said and great post. Interestingly, where I live, the health officials are now suggesting at least 20 seconds of hand washing with soap.
40 years ago I read cautions about reusing paper lunch bags for the same reasons.
Oh well, as we know, logic is invalid in a discussion with LibTards.
Ironically, the best thing to do would be to go back to the tried and true brown paper grocery bags. Trees are farmed and what’s more environmentally safe to put into the ground than a plain paper bag?
Critical reasoning skills are as extinct as the dinos.
When docs get ready to do surgery they scrub, they don’t sanitize.
And I would add: After feeding the birds!
That’s because they might be sick.
Well, it can’t hurt.....:)
Interesting to me as I also picked up groceries this morning at Walmart. The only thing they were out of was a two pack of Barilla alfredo sauce. They simply substituted two single jars.
It really is easier doing your shopping by computer. I do wonder if it is a good thing for them. It must take up a lot of man hours for their employees for a free service.
They must be pushing it tho. The employees are unusually friendly as if that is taught to them.
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