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Coronavirus Live Thread. No. 8
3/2/2020

Posted on 03/02/2020 12:52:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Continuation of Live Thread from No 7.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3820821/posts


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: butbutflu; chinavirus; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; dooom; flu; globaldoom; livethread; sarscov2
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To: PA Engineer
Does Covid-19 infect the brain like SARS?

The infection of SARS-CoV has been reported in the brains from both patients and experimental animals, where the brainstem was heavily infected. Furthermore, some coronaviruses have been demonstrated able to spread via a synapse-connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center from the mechano- and chemoreceptors in the lung and lower respiratory airways. In light of the high similarity between SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV2, it is quite likely that the potential invasion of SARS-CoV2 is partially responsible for the acute respiratory failure of COVID-19 patients.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32104915

601 posted on 03/02/2020 10:18:00 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: redgolum

“Said there was a riot at Costco over toilet paper...”

Yeah. “Seattle nice” only lasts for so long. I went to the hardware store for some more duct tape and plastic sheeting to add to my existing supply. (Create decontamination zones. Good for 100 other uses as well).

Then stopped by the grocery store to wander around (okay - bought a couple bags of chips). The hardware store had about half their supply of TP and paper towels still on the shelf. (Hint, hint). The grocery store was wiped out of that sort of stuff. Also the “feminine” articles.


602 posted on 03/02/2020 10:18:06 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: mrsmith

icky poo surfaces? :-)


603 posted on 03/02/2020 10:19:09 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: steve86

So pneumonia and cytokine storms might be an only partial explanation for respirtory failure.


604 posted on 03/02/2020 10:19:45 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

Respiratory


605 posted on 03/02/2020 10:20:38 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: mrsmith

When I was reading up on the effectiveness of masks, I read about how just with normal breathing, the virus will be breathed out. And with the normal flu, even someone that isn’t sick will have a certain amount of the flu virus in their exhaled breath.


606 posted on 03/02/2020 10:20:59 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: cgbg

The US was reactive and not proactive. Contact tracing is impossible now to mitigate surface contamination with isolation and quarantine.


607 posted on 03/02/2020 10:21:22 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: ETCM

That is the reason it is so deep in the lung - tiny particles that can float in the air (9 hours iirc) and travel hundreds of feet.


608 posted on 03/02/2020 10:23:47 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve

I like your hardware store tip—most folks won’t be thinking that way.

I stocked up on junk food of all sorts—it lasts a long time, and we will eat it eventually.

Day to day we eat healthy...the junk food is for emergencies only. ;-)


609 posted on 03/02/2020 10:25:39 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: 21twelve

I like your hardware store tip—most folks won’t be thinking that way.

I stocked up on junk food of all sorts—it lasts a long time, and we will eat it eventually.

Day to day we eat healthy...the junk food is for emergencies only. ;-)


610 posted on 03/02/2020 10:25:40 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: LilFarmer

from your link, about 4 comments below the Russians pic, unannounced cases in Los Altos??

https://twitter.com/MichelleKalehz1


611 posted on 03/02/2020 10:26:25 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: justa-hairyape

Well.... While I don’t rule out a lab as the “source” of COVID-19, the odds are heavily against it. Mo’ Nature (or God, if you like) is far, far more adept at this sort of thing than we are.


612 posted on 03/02/2020 10:28:13 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: steve86

Somebody tell the “it’s just a head cold” or “same as the flu” trolls about the brain stem infection findings.


613 posted on 03/02/2020 10:28:35 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: 21twelve

Walmart sent a memo to U.S. store employees on Friday explaining how the company is responding to the novel coronavirus...The memo also discouraged face masks for general use, citing recommendations from the CDC.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/walmart-memo-updates-store-employees-on-coronavirus-crisis-as-fears-mount-and-americans-begin-to-panic-shop/ar-BB10DQWV?ocid=spartanntp


614 posted on 03/02/2020 10:30:47 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: PA Engineer

LOL!
Yeah, I don’t know. “Fomites” doesn’t work though.


615 posted on 03/02/2020 10:31:43 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: steve86
coronaviruses have been demonstrated able to spread via a synapse-connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center from the mechano- and chemoreceptors in the lung

Could flooding the lungs with fluid disable these "mechano- and chemoreceptors in the lung", and that alone interrupts the breathing reflex? Or are they claiming, or suspecting, that the infection that somehow reached the brain stops the breathing reflex?

Reminds me of the stories of birds dropping out of the sky, suddenly dead. I guess that's what has happened to some in China ... people just suddenly drop dead.

616 posted on 03/02/2020 10:33:34 PM PST by Tellurian (DeMullahkRats would smugly tell even God "you didn't build that".)
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To: justa-hairyape

people are stealing masks from our hospital....we can’t live them out on isolation carts because the whole box will be taken....


617 posted on 03/02/2020 10:35:13 PM PST by cherry
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To: steve86

Over the weekend I posted the work of scientist Trevor Bedford who had mapped the sequence of SARS-CoV-2 in the Snohomish patient. Here’s an update/more detail

https://bedford.io/blog/ncov-cryptic-transmission/


618 posted on 03/02/2020 10:35:52 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: steve86
Thank you.

Complete article from Sci-Hub: The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-CoV2 may be at least partially responsible for the respiratory failure of COVID-19 patients

I'm reading it now and have some doubts. Mouse models of protein expression are very different than those of humans. Protein Atlas ACE2 Brain Expression.

Possibly there may be a breakdown in the blood brain barrier that will result in some to be more vulnerable than others.

It would be nice to see a simple clinical neuro-examination of patients as well as saliva miRNA protein expression.

Thank you again.
619 posted on 03/02/2020 10:43:34 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Paul R.

Mother Nature apparently has a problem with old people collecting social security and Medicare lol.


620 posted on 03/02/2020 10:53:06 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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