Get real data behind record temperature claims (from a Sandia National Lab scientist)

The Albuquerque Journal ^ | December 30, 2019 | Frederick L. Vook

[CedarDave]

Someone has said “ignorance is not only not knowing something, but also ‘knowing’ something to be true that isn’t.” What I’m about to tell you is just such a thing.

Some time ago, the Albuquerque Journal quoted a long-time resident who claimed to be an expert on “record Albuquerque temperatures” to say, “record-high Albuquerque temperatures are more common in recent years.” The data show this is not true, although widely believed. I have become increasingly disturbed by non-scientists and some scientists quoting scientific results incorrectly.

The data below [omitted from this excerpt] come from the Albuquerque National Weather Service [NWS} morning broadcasts on station WX134 162.4 MHZ. Every morning ... the normal high and low for the day are given, also the record high and low.

This data shows that record-high temperatures occurred over 100 years ago in Albuquerque. That means that, for that date, over 100 attempts to exceed that temperature have failed. They also show that the record-high temperatures are also flat over this long period. The record-high temperatures also occur independent of season from April through November. ...

Albuquerque was a quite different city 100 years ago. Smaller population, lower CO2, fewer heat-trapping streets and buildings. All those changes would tend to give higher temperatures in recent years.

What is the explanation? Also record-low temperature data seems to show they tend to be in earlier years as expected.

Perhaps Sandia scientists can find an explanation. Could it be that CO2 or other gases have a saturable heat absorption for high concentrations? Also, these investigations could provide an excellent school project to show children how a scientific investigation is conducted.

[CedarDave]

Frederick L. Vook is Director Emeritus, Physical And Chemical Sciences, Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque.

Key observation:
I have become increasingly disturbed by non-scientists and some scientists quoting scientific results incorrectly.

Regarding school science projects, he suggests getting the data from the NWS and plotting the data versus each date of the year. Then draw a conclusion and suggest future investigations. This could be done for each city in New Mexico.

[CedarDave]

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[Grampa Dave]

[wastoute]

Is there any FReeper who knows enough about physics to give us the run down on Dr. Patrick Frank?

[bigbob]

He is emeritus, aka “retired” thus is more willing to speak the truth than those whose project funding is dependent on deep staters who are pushing the climate nonsense.

[cuban leaf]

Tony Heller is all over this stuff like stink on Schiff.

This channel will keep you busy for weeks:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TonyHeller1

He produces something like three videos a week. He focuses on REAL data and includes a lot of charts and newspaper articles going back over a century. Expose yourself to five or six of his videos and you’ll be a hard core “denier” for life and be able to argue your point effortlessly.

[Darksheare]

I like how they keep “correcting” recorded data upward due to supposed “errors and cold bias in the equipment” yet they haven’t replaced the supposed defective equipment.

[bgill]

A bozo weatherman in Austin, TX kept saying every day this past summer was record breaking highs. Strange how this was one of the cooler summers we’ve had. The biggest heat was his lying pants on fire.

[L,TOWM]

Dumb@$$ must not have been around in 2011...

THAT was a record challenging summer.

[Inyo-Mono]

Bookmark.

[Wuli]

I find the format of the data list is confusing.
For what date (CCYY) is the RH data and for what date (CCYY) is the NH data???

Is the format attempting to say the RH date is for the ONLY date (CCYY) date shown next to it, and the NH data is for when????

[Ozark Tom]

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/08/the-logarithmic-effect-of-carbon-dioxide/

[Hot Tabasco]

Thanks for the link, I’m subscribing.......Happy New Year buddy!

[rktman]

Apparently was never hot or cold before records. Weird huh?

[rktman]

“Albuquerque was a quite different city 100 years ago.” LOL! Hell it was quite a different city when I first moved there in 1963. So, like 57 years ago?

[elbook]

A very quick illustration (short enough for leftard sheeple attention span) :

To mention that ‘historical’ temperatures (usually quoted) being mostly in town/city centers where there is NOW more Concrete and Asphalt covering the location - it is hardly surprising that the temperatures compare higher.

Mention the word ‘Cherrypicking’ about the data presented being a form of fraud.

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[CedarDave]

For example, for the date of November 23rd, the Record High was 74 in 1909. The Normal High for that date is 52.

Normal highs are determined on a 30-year moving average for the shown date, presently from 1981-2010. Thus 30-year averages for November 23 from 1961 to 1990 and 1971-2000 may be (and likely are) different from the current "normal" high for that date.

https://w2.weather.gov/climate/help/glossary.php

[AFPhys]

Modern "journalism" is all about deciding which facts the public should NOT know because they might reflect badly on Democrats.

Wow! Thank YOU Grandpa Dave, for re-writing this! I had not heard it before, cherish this statement, and I'll be using it a bunch in the future. Great item to start my new year.

[Grampa Dave]

Happy New Year old FRiend.

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