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What and how much we eat might change our internal clocks and hormone responses
Science Daily ^ | November 8, 2019

Posted on 11/10/2019 3:06:54 AM PST by tired&retired

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To: tired&retired

Why waste time on mice? This kind of research can be done on humans. In the KETO community there is amazing research going on with volunteers. Google, Dave Feldman


21 posted on 11/10/2019 7:00:35 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: dp0622

Thanks for sharing. My experience is similar. I fast once a week. Last meal is Sun. dinner until Tues. breakfast. I feel great and once I got used to it, it’s not so hard.

I went KETO in Feb. and have lost 25 pounds. 195 to 170. ;o)


22 posted on 11/10/2019 7:06:29 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: super7man

That’s AWESOME.

I LIKE that time frame. Sun. evening till tues breakfast.

More realistic and doable.

3 days was brutal.

Keep it up!


23 posted on 11/10/2019 7:09:11 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Manuel OKelley

Sounds about right by what I’ve read and experienced.


24 posted on 11/10/2019 7:15:37 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Revolutionary

18:6 Intermittent Fasting is a breeze, especially on Keto, because you don’t get hungry.

It’s basically an early dinner, no breakfast, and a late lunch.


25 posted on 11/10/2019 7:16:53 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Drango
They can’t defend their recommendations. Instead they poop all over Keto.

Jillian Michaels is the main Keto Pooper, then you realize most of the people on her insipid show have gained all the weight back, and then some.

26 posted on 11/10/2019 7:18:35 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BobL
I point that out to show that there is a coordinated and sustained effort to marginalize and trash the entire concept of going low-carb, and literally zero interest in debating it - pretty much the same thing we see regarding Global Warming.

Well, we know why. They want everyone living on rice and beans.

27 posted on 11/10/2019 7:34:55 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: dfwgator

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/7/25/18744359/keto-diet-weight-loss-diabetes

This article is a non-scientific overview both pros & cons.

Here is a pull quote:
“...the work is nothing short of revolutionary. “A guy named Thomas Kuhn pointed out that scientific revolutions don’t happen overnight, they happen over time,” he says. “We’re using a non-pharmaceutical, very powerful tool to hopefully halt and turn back an epidemic that is threatening our ability to provide health care because it’s such a dramatically expensive disease.”


28 posted on 11/10/2019 7:37:47 AM PST by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: tired&retired

By 3:00 AM, the carbs are digested. that event causes disruption resulting in awakening.


29 posted on 11/10/2019 7:42:18 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: BobL

If you lose weight that fast, wouldn’t you have to worry about sagging skin?

I generally lose about a pound a week, which is exactly what I want, because it should avoid issues with sagging skin.


30 posted on 11/10/2019 7:43:49 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 9YearLurker

About 2 years ago I did and extensive Pub Med journal article review on the “Neuroscience of Fasting and Starvation.”

I primarily did it to understand the spiritual aspects of fasting. The result, I still need to test in the lab, but basically the ketone process provides a better fuel source for the brain allowing or facilitating the action potential firing rate to reach the gamma frequencies necessary for the mystical experience.

Perception of reality changes with brain wave frequency.


31 posted on 11/10/2019 7:44:20 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: bert

LOL, it’s having to take a massive pee that wakes me up.


32 posted on 11/10/2019 7:44:27 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Drango

I like Dr. Berg and Dr. Ken Berry’s videos.


33 posted on 11/10/2019 7:47:10 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

“Well, we know why. They want everyone living on rice and beans.”

Yep, there’s really no practical way to blend Keto (super-low carb), with not eating meat. It’s possible in theory (I’ve seen write-ups on it), to some extent, but very risky regarding the nutrients you may miss. You wind up having to pretty much eat nuts and avocados for most nutrients, and the quantity of that is quite limited because they do have carbs.

By far the easiest option is to put off saving the planet for a bit, and pretty much replace carbs with fat, ideally coming from red meat.


34 posted on 11/10/2019 8:28:02 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

please add me to your Low-Carb ping list ... thanks ...


35 posted on 11/10/2019 8:30:22 AM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: BobL

You really don’t need eat a lot of meat, though. Basically a cut of meat the size of a deck of cards will do, although I usually do go beyond that.

I eat a lot more vegetables than ever since I’ve gone Keto.


36 posted on 11/10/2019 8:30:45 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bert

I wake up at 3 am no matter what. Even when I go to bed at midnight.

This week I am in San Diego which is rough as my East Coast 3 am is now waking me up for meditation at midnight.


37 posted on 11/10/2019 8:34:03 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: super7man

It would never pass the review board to be done.


38 posted on 11/10/2019 8:36:06 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

“allowing or facilitating the action potential firing rate to reach the gamma frequencies necessary for the mystical experience.

Perception of reality changes with brain wave frequency.”
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Also interesting, thanks.


39 posted on 11/10/2019 8:36:19 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: dfwgator

“If you lose weight that fast, wouldn’t you have to worry about sagging skin?”

I’ve read that Keto wont give you sagging skin, but then again, that may be hype, or it may depend on genetics, per this thread on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/5khwg1/question_keto_intermittent_fasting_and_saggy_skin/

I guess one option is to lose the weight and find out...and if the saggy skin is too bothersome, perhaps add a bit of weight back, or have it cut off.


40 posted on 11/10/2019 8:36:40 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't don't tell anyone.)
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