Skip to comments.Scientists 'discover two more' of the seven warships lost in the Battle of Midway (TR)
Posted on 10/18/2019 11:10:41 AM PDT by DFG
Deep-sea explorers scouring the world's oceans for sunken World War II ships are investigating what they believe could be the third ship of seven lost to the Pacific during the Battle of Midway.
Hundreds of miles off Midway Atoll, nearly halfway between the United States and Japan, a research vessel is launching underwater robots miles into the abyss to look for warships from the famed Battle of Midway.
Weeks of grid searches around the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands have already led the crew of the Petrel to one sunken warship, the Japanese ship the Kaga.
This week, the crew is deploying equipment to investigate what could be another.
Historians consider the Battle of Midway an essential victory for the U.S. and a key turning point in WWII.
Frank Thompson, a historian with the Naval History and Heritage Command in Washington, D.C., who is onboard the Petrel said: 'We read about the battles, we know what happened. But when you see these wrecks on the bottom of the ocean and everything, you kind of get a feel for what the real price is for war.
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wasn’t Kaga thoroughly trashed and burned? That image looks like an intact vessel.
Just in time to promote a new movie about the Battle of Midway. I liked the 1976 movie, but I haven’t seen it in decades.
Looking at the bottom left corner of that picture seems to indicate that the picture itself is from 1940 or 1941, so they’re likely comparing “before” pics to what they’ve discovered.
How is it possible to see lines on the deck and the meatballs with sonar? Impossible to cut the gloom from that far away for visual images.
I think you are right/ that might be “original” whereas the one on the bottom has many bomb hits. It was scuttled by the Japanese DDs, but bombers from the Enterprise savaged it.
I thought the KAGA was found in 1999 or so
The 1976 film was a good film, told the story well in spite of the insipid subplot. It will be had to find a better Admiral Yamamoto the Toshiro Mifune!
A Japanese submarine was patrolling the area at the time. The American fleet had just passed. They could have radioed Tokyo had they seen it earlier. The outcome of the war could have been different.
So just an old picture for comparison.
I have no memory of the subplot. I assume it was simply a pretense to get us to the battle scenes. That was an impressive cast, rivaling even A Bridge Too Far.
The Midway victory permanently seized the initiative from the Japanese. One could easily paraphrase Winston Churchill to say never have so many who fought in the Pacific owed so much to so few. Not counting the B-17s that stayed aloft, about 550 flyers closely engaged the Japanese and suffered nearly 300 deaths. Walter Lord and Gordon W. Prange considered this accomplishment incredible and miraculous. For Mitsuo Fuchida and Masatake Okumiya, it was the battle that doomed Japan.
AP Photos aren’t allowed on FR. Legal issue.
I spent a year on Kure Atoll in 1980 with the Coast Guard. Kure is about 50 miles from Midway. We were warned there was unexploded munitions in the lagoon but I never saw any despite almost daily snorkeling for Lobsters.
There was that subplot about Charles Heston’s son falling in love with a Japanese internment victim...
In the 1976 film it was presented that a flight of USN planes spotted a lone Japanese ship steaming hard. They deduced that it was it trying to catch up to the main carrier fleet and followed it. In reality it was a lone USN sub doing picket duty that spotted the carrier fleet and alerted higher ups that the Japanese carrier force was searching for the USN carrier force.
Around a month ago, I ordered Tora, Tora, Tora on DVD. I had not seen it in many years. I am one of those people who watch a movie then don’t remember a whole lot or just never noticed to start with.
I thought it was pretty good but a little boring. Watched it again a few days later and it seemed to improve. I did think there was a lot of discussion among people both Japanese and American leaders.
Watched it again last night and it was much better. I began to understand all the things which took place.
Published in 1953, it is the story of Fuchida's Christian conversion.
Mitsuo Fuchida (3 December 1902 30 May 1976) was a Japanese captain in the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service and a bomber aviator in the Japanese navy before and during World War II. He is perhaps best known for leading the first wave of air attacks on Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941. Working under the overall fleet commander, Vice Admiral Chūichi Nagumo, Fuchida was responsible for the coordination of the entire aerial attack.
After the war ended, Fuchida became a Christian evangelist and traveled through the United States and Europe to tell his story. He settled permanently in the United States (although he never became a U.S. citizen).
Mifune IMO was robotic and it was hard to take Arnold from Happy Days, Pat Morita, as Adm Kusaka.
When I first saw that story I couldn’t believe it was true. Just too good to be true but in fact it was.
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