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String Theory Does Not Win a Nobel, and I Win a Bet
Scientific America ^ | October 9, 2019 | John Horgan

Posted on 10/09/2019 8:12:24 AM PDT by C19fan

I just won a bet I made in 2002 with physicist Michio Kaku. I bet him $1,000 that “by 2020, no one will have won a Nobel Prize for work on superstring theory, membrane theory, or some other unified theory describing all the forces of nature.” This year’s Nobel Prize in Physics, which recognized solid work in cosmology (yay Jim Peebles!) and astronomy, was Kaku’s last chance to win before 2020.

Kaku and I made the bet under the auspices of Long Bets, a “public arena for enjoyably competitive predictions, of interest to society, with philanthropic money at stake.” Long Bets is a project of the Long Now Foundation, which Stewart Brand and others created in 1996 to promote “long-term thinking.” Folks like Warren Buffet, Christof Koch, Freeman Dyson, Ray Kurzweil, Gordon Bell, Eric Schmidt, Steven Pinker and Ted Danson have made hundreds of bets on predictions involving science, politics, the environment, economics, sports, you name it. Proceeds of bets go to a charity chosen by the winner. Kaku and I each put up $1,000 for our wager. Since I won, $2,000 goes to the Nature Conservancy. If Kaku had won, the money would have gone to National Peace Action.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
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1 posted on 10/09/2019 8:12:24 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

More of the excerpt is dedicated to how great this author is, than the science or even the topic.

I know a new Yorker when I read one.


2 posted on 10/09/2019 8:17:49 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: C19fan

He had already won one for the photoelectric effect.


3 posted on 10/09/2019 8:18:30 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: C19fan

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1921/summary/

The Nobel Prize in Physics 1921 was awarded to Albert Einstein “for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect.”

https://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/2012/oct/08/einstein-nobel-prize-relativity

Why Einstein never received a Nobel prize for relativity


4 posted on 10/09/2019 8:19:49 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: C19fan

I’m surprised Obama was not awarded a Nobel for that.


5 posted on 10/09/2019 8:19:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: C19fan
Warren Buffet, Christof Koch, Freeman Dyson, Ray Kurzweil, Gordon Bell, Eric Schmidt, Steven Pinker and Ted Danson

That list reminded me of the shrinks' convention in Mel Brooks' "High Anxiety", where the hall is dominated by a sequence of portraits of Frued, Jung, Adler, and Joyce Brothers.
6 posted on 10/09/2019 8:20:19 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Sutor, ne ultra crepidam--Appelles of Kos)
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To: C19fan

Pretty safe bet!
That kind of work almost never gets considered for a Nobel because its all mathematical not experimental physics. Nobel Prizes end to bias toward experimental-oriented fields. (oh yeah? - Explain why the Nobel prizes for Economics! - I can’t!)


7 posted on 10/09/2019 8:22:26 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

There is no such thing as a Nobel for Economics. It was a prize that was added on by the Swedish Central Bank.


8 posted on 10/09/2019 8:24:35 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Ah....well then there ya go!


9 posted on 10/09/2019 8:26:13 AM PDT by Reily
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To: C19fan

Didn’t Sheldon win one?


10 posted on 10/09/2019 8:52:15 AM PDT by pas
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To: C19fan

String Theory is passe’.

I am being condsidered for my “Straw Theory”.

I postulate that if straws are banned, endangered species will successfully breed in enough numbers to beat back Climate Change for all time.


11 posted on 10/09/2019 8:55:03 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Dr. Sivana

Brooks should have had Dr. Ruth Westheimer there too.

If you’re going to have a lineup of crackpots...


12 posted on 10/09/2019 9:39:04 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: C19fan

String theory and multi universe are one in the same. Hoaxes.


13 posted on 10/09/2019 10:16:53 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Reily

Planck didn’t win his until 1918 (paper was 1900). Einstein put Planck on the map. Planck was derided at the time as a mathematical huckster.

Einsenberg straightened Einstein’s math out. Math matters, and the folks on the Nobel committee don’t have much of a sense of history I guess.


14 posted on 10/09/2019 10:31:01 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

Einsenberg don’t you mean Heisenberg?

Agree math matters!

Also agree on your comments regarding the committee. I guess the “bias” toward the “experimental” the “physical” probably comes from Alfred Nobel being a chemist and being “applications” oriented. Though in those days there wasn’t much difference between a physicist & a chemist.

I found a great bumper sticker “I like Math! It Makes Other People Cry!”


15 posted on 10/09/2019 10:40:16 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Don W
Brooks should have had Dr. Ruth Westheimer there too.

It was the '70s, Dr. Ruth hadn't hit yet.
16 posted on 10/09/2019 10:59:15 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Sutor, ne ultra crepidam--Appelles of Kos)
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Since I won, $2,000 goes to the Nature Conservancy. If Kaku had won, the money would have gone to National Peace Action.


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17 posted on 10/09/2019 11:16:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: C19fan

The only people who have benefited, financially, from string theory or super-string theory are dentists...


18 posted on 10/09/2019 12:37:10 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: SuperLuminal

Super silly string makers also.


19 posted on 10/09/2019 3:15:43 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

You are correct, I neglected the timeline.


20 posted on 10/10/2019 7:34:35 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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