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Iroquois Prophesy from 1451
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Posted on 10/07/2019 5:17:29 PM PDT by tired&retired

The Great Peacemaker, whose name means "Two River Currents Flowing Together" and is sometimes referred to as Deganawida, was an Iroquois Prophet who convinced five warring Indian tribes to join in peace.

He prophesied that a "white serpent" would come to his people's lands and make friends with them, only to deceive them later.

A "red serpent" would later make war against the "white serpent."

After a season, a "black serpent" would come and defeat both the "white" and "red serpents".

According to the prophecy, when the people gathered under the elm tree become humble, all three "serpents" would be blinded by a light many times brighter than the sun. Deganawidah said that he would be that light.


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To: tired&retired
Deganawidah said that he would be that light.

Bomb 20 said the same thing. /obscure

41 posted on 10/07/2019 6:09:39 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: Undecided 2012

Thanx spellin knot-see,


42 posted on 10/07/2019 6:15:04 PM PDT by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: tired&retired
A "red serpent" would later make war against the "white serpent."

After a season, a "black serpent" would come and defeat both the "white" and "red serpents".

He was referring to the 1919 World Series where the Cincinnati Reds (the "red serpent") faced the Chicago White Sox (the "white serpent.") The "black serpent" refers to the infamous Black Sox scandal that erupted when it was learned that the series was fixed.

43 posted on 10/07/2019 6:20:37 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: kaehurowing

You go first :)


44 posted on 10/07/2019 6:21:21 PM PDT by xp38
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To: tired&retired

Related thread: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3784431/posts


45 posted on 10/07/2019 6:22:25 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Tagline not secure.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

That wasn’t just some random young black man—that was Sam Wilson, the Falcon.

And in the original comics, the Falcon often was Capt America when Steve was doing other things/dead/dying/missing (he came back a lot—even from the dead... Comics, amirite?)


46 posted on 10/07/2019 6:32:11 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Dark, very dark, you’re a star!


47 posted on 10/07/2019 6:35:15 PM PDT by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: dp0622; Bommer
The best hoagies aren't from the big name shops...they are from you local pizza delivery store or on the boardwalk in Wildwood.

That being said, the absolute BEST ham and cheese sandwich I ever has was at the South Street Seaport. That was 20 years ago, and I bet the place is long gone.

As for Indian heritage, this is as close as I get:


48 posted on 10/07/2019 6:36:08 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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I had absolutely no idea the Iroquois used the Julian calendar.


49 posted on 10/07/2019 6:36:30 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: tired&retired
I have been to the cave written about in the novel
Last of the mohicans .Beautiful view .
Its was on private land near Cooperstown ny .
Iroquois nation items were preserved by the land owners .
Very interesting .
50 posted on 10/07/2019 6:52:06 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists)
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To: Deaf Smith

“Why does it always have to be snakes?”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3784431/posts


51 posted on 10/07/2019 7:00:03 PM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: tired&retired

I won’t say I believe it, but God can send a prophecy to anyone he darn pleases; they don’t even have to be Christian or even believers in any higher power.


52 posted on 10/07/2019 7:14:39 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86
Strike the first even.
53 posted on 10/07/2019 7:16:52 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Bommer

is that boomer as in SSBN?


54 posted on 10/07/2019 7:20:38 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Undecided 2012; Bommer
Nope


55 posted on 10/07/2019 7:26:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: tired&retired

The Great Peacemaker, whose name means "Two River Currents Flowing Together"...

... According to the prophecy, when the people gathered under the elm tree become humble, all three "serpents" would be blinded by a light many times brighter than the sun. Deganawidah said that he would be that light.

July 16th, 1945: the birth of the Atomic Age. All three: "Trinity".

Production of the fissile isotopes uranium-235 and plutonium-239 were enormous undertakings given the technology of the 1940s, and accounted for 80% of the total costs of the project.

>>>

Ralph Carlisle Smith, watching from Compania Hill, wrote:

I was staring straight ahead with my open left eye covered by a welder's glass and my right eye remaining open and uncovered. Suddenly, my right eye was blinded by a light which appeared instantaneously all about without any build up of intensity. My left eye could see the ball of fire start up like a tremendous bubble or nob-like mushroom. I dropped the glass from my left eye almost immediately and watched the light climb upward. The light intensity fell rapidly, hence did not blind my left eye but it was still amazingly bright.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test)

Num 24

16. The speech of one who heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, who saw the vision of the Almighty falling down, but having his eyes open [uglui* einayim =235]:
17. I shall see him, but not now; I shall behold him, but not near; there shall come a star out of Jacob, and a scepter shall rise out of Israel, and shall strike the corners of Moab, and destroy all the sons of Seth:

* cf. "gilui", discovery, revelation. IOW having open eyes. Manifest... Destiny.

American elm (Ulmus americana) is a large tree widely known for its vase-like shape and rounded, multi-branched crown atop a thick, powerful trunk. It usually grows from 60 to 80 feet tall with a crown two-thirds as great. Before the onset of Dutch elm disease, American elm was one of the most common street and shade trees across much of the United States.

https://www.arborday.org/programs/nationaltree/elm.cfm

when the people gathered under the elm tree become humble

Check the corner of Washington Street at Boylston-Essex Streets for the famous elm tree:

During an 1825 tour of Boston, the Marquis de Lafayette declared, "The world should never forget the spot where once stood Liberty Tree, so famous in your annals."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Tree

Iroquois Prophesy from 1451

Sons of Liberty:

1451 = Reuben [259] + Simeon [466] + Ephraim [331] + Manasseh [395]:

Bookends. These are the first two sons of Jacob paired with the last two who came from Joseph. Compare how these "Two River Currents" flow together:

Genesis 48:5 And now thy two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, which were born unto thee in the land of Egypt before I came unto thee into Egypt, are mine; as Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mine.

(The name Manasseh is spelled with the same letters as neshama, soul.)

And so forth.

THIS is the House that Jack built, but nobody knows Jack!

It is a cumulative tale that does not tell the story of Jack's house, or even of Jack who built the house, but instead shows how the house is indirectly linked to other things and people, and through this method tells the story of "The man all tattered and torn", and the "Maiden all forlorn", as well as other smaller events, showing how these are interlinked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_the_House_That_Jack_Built

"The man all tattered and torn", and the "Maiden all forlorn": the Messiah, and the Shekhina in exile.

Come out come out, wherever you are..

56 posted on 10/07/2019 7:26:21 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: tired&retired

Jim Stafford “Spiders and Snakes” https://youtu.be/4vudA72hibg


57 posted on 10/07/2019 7:27:43 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: dp0622

Is this from the great Phukahwee tribe if Indian Scouts?


58 posted on 10/07/2019 7:51:12 PM PDT by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: DoodleBob

that’s closer than i get :)


59 posted on 10/07/2019 8:47:29 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: cgbg
Where is the “It was aliens” picture?

Dunno. Can you post it?

60 posted on 10/07/2019 9:04:10 PM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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