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Iroquois Prophesy from 1451
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Posted on 10/07/2019 5:17:29 PM PDT by tired&retired

The Great Peacemaker, whose name means "Two River Currents Flowing Together" and is sometimes referred to as Deganawida, was an Iroquois Prophet who convinced five warring Indian tribes to join in peace.

He prophesied that a "white serpent" would come to his people's lands and make friends with them, only to deceive them later.

A "red serpent" would later make war against the "white serpent."

After a season, a "black serpent" would come and defeat both the "white" and "red serpents".

According to the prophecy, when the people gathered under the elm tree become humble, all three "serpents" would be blinded by a light many times brighter than the sun. Deganawidah said that he would be that light.


TOPICS: History; Pets/Animals; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: deganawida; derpetology; herpetology; iroquois; peyote; prophecy; qanon; serpents
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To: tired&retired

The black serpent is black face. It’s taking everyone down.


21 posted on 10/07/2019 5:43:43 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: centurion316
In the French and Indian War, the Cherokees allied against the British side (our side).

Nope. The Cherokee were allied with the British in the French and Indian War, while the Shawnee were the opposition aligned with France.

22 posted on 10/07/2019 5:45:39 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: tired&retired

Then...

In fourteen hundred ninety-two
some white guy sailed the ocean blue.

23 posted on 10/07/2019 5:48:40 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: centurion316

Read some history.

Also read about Shikellamy, a Sachem or Peace Chief, who was friends with the Penn Family settlement and was responsible for most of the Iroquois siding with the British against the French.

Shikellamy actually resided at the British Fort Agusta near current day Sunbury Pennsylvania where the two branches of the Susquehanna River come together.

The Cherokee were in the south.


24 posted on 10/07/2019 5:48:59 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Where and when was this first written down?


25 posted on 10/07/2019 5:49:46 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Deaf Smith

In sacred geometry the serpent was a common representation for consciousness.


26 posted on 10/07/2019 5:50:17 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: ETCM

Legend has it, I am Seneca Iroquois partly.


27 posted on 10/07/2019 5:50:25 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: waterhill

Many tribes moved into the Iroquois territory to live in peace.

One of the largest was the Tuscarora who moved up from the Carolinas.

I read somewhere that over 209 tribes moved into the Iroquois Nation. It became a melting pot.


28 posted on 10/07/2019 5:54:55 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Whereas Liberty is defined.


29 posted on 10/07/2019 5:55:36 PM PDT by Shady (One More Time: CO2 is PLANT FOOD! Without it we die. Any questions?)
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To: Bommer

it’s hoagie


30 posted on 10/07/2019 5:57:30 PM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: dp0622; Bommer
heroes

I'm sorry...I worked in Manhattan for decades but I grew up outside of Philadelphia; the proper name for this delicacy is...

31 posted on 10/07/2019 5:57:33 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: tired&retired

Yes, that is true. They settled in what is now the Southern Tier of NY and the NE part of Pennsylvania.


32 posted on 10/07/2019 5:57:44 PM PDT by Shady (One More Time: CO2 is PLANT FOOD! Without it we die. Any questions?)
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To: waterhill

33 posted on 10/07/2019 5:59:22 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: tired&retired

no mention of the rainbow serpent......


34 posted on 10/07/2019 6:00:10 PM PDT by cherry (4)
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To: Deaf Smith

“Why does it always have to be snakes?”

This!


35 posted on 10/07/2019 6:01:06 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: tired&retired

And then there is the Caduceus vs Rod of Asclepius for the symbol of medicine.


36 posted on 10/07/2019 6:03:00 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: tired&retired
In the movie Avengers: Endgame there was a scene where the aging Capt. America passes his shield to a young black man - no metaphor there.
37 posted on 10/07/2019 6:03:11 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (The Elite: Too stupid to know when to quit stealing!)
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To: tired&retired

Yep I am talking about the Cherokees, not the Iroquois


38 posted on 10/07/2019 6:04:27 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Deaf Smith

Asps. Very dangerous.


39 posted on 10/07/2019 6:05:37 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: DoodleBob; Bommer

YOU’RE OUT OF THE TRIBE!!!

But drop some Hoagies off before you leave :)

Plus there’s a million different version of where and how the name originated.

I believe the name given by Italians working in Hog Island in PA is the derivative.


40 posted on 10/07/2019 6:08:20 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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