Posted on 09/28/2019 10:43:12 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
Trump will be impeached in the house. Senate will vote to remove from office. He will run for a second term and win. deep state cannot win. Trump needs to know that IMHO that you don't ask a foreign government to investigate your political opponent. And i am sure that is what he did........................
It might take that to save the country. I think Trump is the only man in our time capable both of getting elected and willing to take that bullet, if necessary.
Many years ago...well, 15 or more..., there were the beginnings of prepping talk on FR. People were stockpiling arms and ammo. Some FReeper(I wish I could credit them) posted that “God does not choose the prepared. He prepares the chosen.”
Pure BS
Your opinion is not even worth knowing. President Trump did not ask a foreign government to investigate his political opponent. A sitting Vice President extorted a foreign government to stop investigating his son. All our President did was attempt to restore honesty and integrity in our dealings with a foreign government that experienced collusion with Democrat criminals.
How would you go about draining the swamp if you had to treat the creatures in the swamp with kid gloves? We had another Vice President many years ago who was tried for treason. Our President back then didn't back down and the only reason Aaron Burr was not convicted is that the crucial evidence was lost.
CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation.· (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place. A number of factors can affect the accuracy of the record, including poor telecommunications connections and variations in accent and/or interpretation. The word "inaudible" is used to indicate portions of a conversation that the notetaker was unable to hear.The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation .. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible.
President Zelenskyy: Yes it is very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that purpose, I just recalled our.ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just.recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surrond myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly. That I can assure you.
The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United $tates, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that the other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me.
President Zelenskyy: I wanted to tell ·you about the prosecutor First of a11 I understand and I'm knowledgeable about the situation. Since we have won the absolute majority in our Parliament; the next prosecutor general will be 100% my person, my candidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and will start. as a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look. into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue. The issue of the investigation of the case is actually the issue of making sure to restore the honesty so we will take care of that and wi11work on the investigation of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have any additional information that you can provide to us, it would be very helpful for the investigation to make sure that we administer justice in our country with regard to the Ambassador to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name was Ivanovich. It was great that you were the first one who told me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and she was on his side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough.
“Trump needs to know that IMHO that you don’t ask a foreign government to investigate your political opponent.”
If Trump DIDN’T ask Ukraine government to investigate fraud by ANY American, he would not be fulfilling his duty as President. Does Biden get to skate because he may, at some point in time, become Trump’s opponent? Does that make him immune? (Maybe it does; it worked for Hillary.)
“I have learned not to waste energy wringing my hands during this Trump presidency.”
Bottom line: God’s got this. It’ll be fine. What the Satanist RATs and, apparently kvanbrunt2, don’t understand is that Trump is covered with millions of prayers at any point in time.
“Unfortunately, one of the penalties for impeachment is losing the ability to ever hold public office.”
Clinton was impeached; he ran for public office after that — and he won.
IBTZ Want a tool.
Joe Biden could also be called to testify. His questioning and testimony would be a hoot.
They'll all just lie. Oaths mean nothing to those people.
He was impeached in 1998...
If Articles of Impeachment go to the Senate, they will handle it in the same manner as Billy Bob Xlinton. No real trial with live witnesses, etc.. Rather a back room deal to acquit. No way the Dems want live testimony from such a large amount dirty people.
You’re right. I thought he was impeached in his first term.
I bothered to read the actual transcript of the phone call. They make the disclaimer that it isn’t verbatum,
These calls are recorded. An actual transcript would be a verbatim transcript. Any other written form about the call is just notes from which only an outline can be discerned.
The version of the call you posted bears no resemblance to the White House PDF - see link above.
This was from April 1st, by the way. Biden bragged about his own wrongdoing long before President Trump’s discussion with Zelenskyy. I wouldn’t be surprised, if the investigation has been in process much longer.
Joe Biden’s 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
BY JOHN SOLOMON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 04/01/19 09:37 PM EDT
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived
Absolutely... This has been a curious observation of mine too. And there have been a few things where Trump had them dead to rights. Either he is holding his lawyers back for some reason, or they are not very good at all and worthless. Something is wrong, it has been far too one sided in all this.
He'll have a a whole team of lawyers. One that is curently one of his attorneys is Jay Sekulo. These lawyers are his personal lawyers. They do not argue his policies in court. That is left to the Solictor Generals office.
“These calls are recorded.”
They’re not recorded. That was stopped after Nixon. Only written notes by multiple people during the same conversation.
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