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The Ketogenic Diet and Diabetes
ruled.me ^ | Oct 12th, 2018 | Craig Clarke

Posted on 09/09/2019 6:32:38 AM PDT by FtrPilot

The ketogenic diet was originally developed almost 100 years ago to treat epilepsy. Nowadays, it is used as a nutrition plan by health-conscious men and women to optimize body composition and athletic performance.

Recent research suggests that high fat, very-low carb diets have another benefit: They may help control glucose, triglycerides, insulin, and body weight in people with diabetes. The research below shows the ketogenic diet may be an effective tool you can use to manage symptoms of Diabetes, alongside exercise and medication.

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TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: diabetes; keto; lowcarbs
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LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!

Thanks again Ftr. This is simply more evidence that Keto seems to be the best way to go. Here’s my takeaway quote from the article (and I think they’re understating the benefits):

“The majority of human studies on how the keto diet impacts blood sugar control share a similar theme: a low-carb, high-fat diet may be the best diet to help manage diabetes.”

[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]


101 posted on 09/09/2019 10:09:35 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

It’s important to distinguish exactly what kind of fats. You should try to get as much Omega 3s as possible, too much Omega 6 can lead to inflammation, if not balanced out with Omega 3s.


102 posted on 09/09/2019 10:11:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ConservativeMind
"What I have read is that it does put diabetes into remission, but keto, by itself, doesn’t repopulate your pancreas with new cells."

With Type 2 Diabetes the pancreas is still producing insulin. It's just that the body becomes desensitized to it and it's less effective. Most people are Type 2.

103 posted on 09/09/2019 10:13:45 AM PDT by mlo
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To: FtrPilot
"The Keto diet, at 20 to 30 carbs per day, is designed to put your body into ketosis and keep it there. Ketosis puts additional strain on the kidneys as they try to filter excess keytones. Staying in ketosis over long periods of time will damage the kidneys."

A lot of people make these kinds of claims but you'll usually find they don't have very good evidence for it. I'm not aware of any evidence that long term ketosis will damage the kidneys, and I'm aware of individuals who have been in ketosis for years with absolutely no damage.

What is the evidence for kidney damage?

104 posted on 09/09/2019 10:16:25 AM PDT by mlo
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Not yet!!!

KetoConnect is the shizzle.


105 posted on 09/09/2019 10:18:51 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: dfwgator

We do “mashed” cauliflower which is a great substitute for mashed potato.


106 posted on 09/09/2019 11:14:56 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: mlo

True, but the study pointed to how it helps Type 1, too.


107 posted on 09/09/2019 11:57:55 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: dfwgator
So for ice cream, get a whole-milk yogurt and swirl in some frozen berries. Make sure you get the berries with nothing added. My favorite is Wyman's Triple Berries with Wild Blues swirled into a Siggi's Triple-Cream skyr. But even strawberries work out nicely. It's even BETTER than ice cream, I dare say.

On subject of yogurt, never get low-fat yogurt. All that means is they took out some of the good stuff and added sugar. Yogurt was never meant to be low-fat.


108 posted on 09/09/2019 12:05:05 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

I used the Chobani Full Fat yogurt and did that with frozen Strawberries.


109 posted on 09/09/2019 12:06:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FtrPilot
Since we are having a great discussion here, I wonder what others think of MCT (medium-chain tryglyceride) oil. I never heard of it until recently and my wife has been bugging me to try it. Looks like it's made from either coconut or palm oil and supposedly it helps with keto diets.

I try to avoid supplements, the only supplement I use is Vitamin D3, as I'm a big believer in getting my nutrition from natural food sources.

But I thought I'd throw that out there and see if anybody has opinions on MCT one way or the other.

110 posted on 09/09/2019 12:12:22 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ConservativeMind
"True, but the study pointed to how it helps Type 1, too."

It does. If you don't produce enough insulin yourself then clearly it helps to reduce the need for it. I was only explaining that your "but" only applied to Type Is.

111 posted on 09/09/2019 12:21:29 PM PDT by mlo
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To: SamAdams76
"I try to avoid supplements, the only supplement I use is Vitamin D3, as I'm a big believer in getting my nutrition from natural food sources."

You should read up on K2, particularly if you take D3.

112 posted on 09/09/2019 12:23:55 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

I’ve been following a ketogenic way of eating for more than five years because of unmanageable T2D under a SAD way of eating. I’ll take an A1C routinely below 5 as a measure of success. On a sad note, I did lose my kidneys in a tragic boating accident a few years ago, along with my guns of course.


113 posted on 09/09/2019 12:32:55 PM PDT by bluetick
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To: luckystarmom

Yes, I agree with you: a diet low in simple carbs for most is the way to go. Me to can offer some weight-loss punch, but on a continuing basis, simply being relatively low carb, while eating a variety of largely whole foods is plenty good — and more prudent.


114 posted on 09/09/2019 12:40:53 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: luckystarmom

Yes, I agree with you: a diet low in simple carbs for most is the way to go. Me to can offer some weight-loss punch, but on a continuing basis, simply being relatively low carb, while eating a variety of largely whole foods is plenty good — and more prudent.


115 posted on 09/09/2019 12:41:28 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: BlackbirdSST
"It's just another of many fad diets. It will disappear soon. One study will claim it's all good. The next study will claim it to be death incarnate."

There's a much deeper issue at work. I've been studying this topic for a number of years now. Long before I heard anyone say "keto". The fact is that we've been told we understood what healthy nutrition means long before there was any evidence to say so, and our dietary guidelines and our ideas about what was healthy eating have been founded on some very bad science all along.

The reason you keep hearing competing claims about what is good or bad to eat is because most of the studies have been observational studies, which is mostly only good for creating hypothesis and doesn't prove any cause and effect. Also, most of the articles people read are journalist's opinions about studies, not the actual studies. Media articles about science are generally poor, but in nutrition they are crap and jump to unscientific conclusions, even if the study didn't.

Bottom line. The field of nutrition science was hijacked decades ago by people convinced that eating fat and cholesterol, particularly saturated fat, caused heart disease. They were convinced of that even though no science existed that proved it or even made a compelling case for it. Those beliefs were institutionalized and made official nutritional guidelines for healthy eating. We've all taken it in so much it just seems obvious. People have lowered their fat intake, and necessarily upped the carb intake, and gotten sicker and sicker.

But they were wrong, and it's been apparent for a long time that they've been wrong. From the very first, when actual good studies were done to prove that eating fat caused heart disease, those studies failed to do so. To this day that connection has never been proven.

But the science has shown that people did better on higher fat/lower carb diets, and since this has become less taboo in recent years more and more science is being done on it now, and it's confirming the same thing. A proper human diet is not one high in carbs and low in fat. It's the other way around. In other words, "keto".

Keto diets are taking off now because more and more people are sick. Obesity and diabetes rates are at levels unthinkable just a couple decades ago. And many of those people have discovered that ignoring official advice and even their doctors, and following a keto diet, can make them healthy. That's not a fad. They've discovered what their bodies actually need to work properly, and the science backs this up. It always did. It's just that the science did not inform the nutrition advice we've always been given.

116 posted on 09/09/2019 12:50:37 PM PDT by mlo
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To: bluetick

I hate it when that happens.


117 posted on 09/09/2019 12:51:23 PM PDT by mlo
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To: dfwgator

Is there any downside to Swerve? I’ve never seen it but I’m almost out of Stevia so I was thinking of switching.


118 posted on 09/09/2019 12:53:00 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: SamAdams76

I use MCT oil, sprinkle it on my salad, but lately I’ve switched to just using Coconut Oil, as it’s easier on my stomach.


119 posted on 09/09/2019 12:54:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: mlo
"Staying in ketosis over long periods of time will damage the kidneys."

I've been looking for some support for this idea that keto will damage the kidneys. It appears that it's mostly based on the mistaken idea that a keto diet is high in protein.

What you need to know about a low-carb diet and your kidneys

120 posted on 09/09/2019 12:54:13 PM PDT by mlo
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