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US Secret Service switching to 9mm Glock pistols
abcnews.go.com ^ | Aug. 1, 2019 | CHRIS FRANCESCANI

Posted on 08/02/2019 5:19:54 AM PDT by PROCON

The United States Secret Service is moving forward with plans to outfit its agents with Glock 9 millimeter (mm) pistols to replace the agency's existing Sig Sauer .357-caliber duty weapons -- part of a larger move among U.S. law enforcement agencies towards the lighter, more efficient guns.

“The Secret Service has been one of the few agencies that has maintained Sig Sauer as a permanent duty weapon for more than 20 years,” said Donald J. Mihalek, a retired senior Secret Service agent and ABC News contributor.

The Secret Service and Glock declined to comment on the move, but a federal official with direct knowledge of the deal confirmed the agency's plan to switch to the Glock 9 mm pistols. Details of the new deal were recently posted on fedbizops.gov, the federal government's website for posting procurement opportunities above $25,000 for private sector companies.

The Secret Service -- whose primary mission is to protect presidents, vice-presidents and their families -- employs about 3,200 special agents, 1,300 uniformed officers and more than 2,000 other support personnel, according to its website.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 9mm; banglist; glock; secretservice; usss
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To: Magnum44

It’s an easy test. Shoot a 357 and a 45. I’ve done both back to back and you feel the slide weight bouncing off the back and the springs shooting it back forward. That slide is s pretty heavy piece of steel.

There is no Jolt like a .357. That’s me anyway.


141 posted on 08/02/2019 9:33:13 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

30+ years of lessons learned already out there regarding transitioning to Glocks from other platforms. You cant treat a Glock from the holster the way you can a wheel gun or even a 1911. But used properly, its just as safe. The early on mistakes with Glocks were mostly from guys who were used to carrying .38’s and they were used to drawing with finger on the trigger knowing they had a 9 pound double action pull protecting them from accidental discharge. Finger on trigger before ready to shoot is always a bad habit, but the double action revolver lets you get away with it. For Glock, its just a matter of correct training and repetition.


142 posted on 08/02/2019 9:35:21 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: cuban leaf

re: “I remember those early 60’s dodges and Plymouth marketed for city and town police work”

By at least 1965 Chrysler had the 3-speed Torqeflite transmission; in 64 Chevrolet was still using the 2-speed Powerglide ...


143 posted on 08/02/2019 9:37:28 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: TexasGator

See my previous post about ‘barbecue gun’. 8~)


144 posted on 08/02/2019 9:45:56 AM PDT by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: _Jim

Hey, two gears is all you need when other gears can be “faked” with torque converter slip. :D


145 posted on 08/02/2019 9:48:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: catman67

Doing a little reading I see that early .40’s had problems and this manufacturers increased wall thickness similar tp 10 mm.


146 posted on 08/02/2019 9:49:06 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: LumberJack53213
Never understood the fascination with Glock, the seem rather ugly and expensive

Should I ever find myself in the middle of a firefight, aesthetics is going to be the least of my concerns. As for cost, when you buy pistols by the truckload, they don't cost nearly as much as they do in a retail store. I carry a Glock because it's like the AK-47. Pull the trigger and it's going to go bang. Whether you're protecting the President or yourself, you don't want to go cheap. I get LE pricing, so it's not really that expensive for me.

147 posted on 08/02/2019 9:49:32 AM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: EEGator
The .357 Sig is around a grand, the Glock 9mm is around $600

Not when you buy them by the truckload. LE pricing at a blue label dealer is a little over $400.

148 posted on 08/02/2019 9:51:23 AM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Had some 45’s and they aren’t fun. 357mag is fun. “

Fun is firing off a few .357’s and noticing that suddenly no one is in the indoor range but you.


149 posted on 08/02/2019 9:51:33 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Rio

“Nice. Is that single-stack mag? I do like the DA/SA type of automatic. “

Not ‘automatic’.

semi-auto or auto-loader.


150 posted on 08/02/2019 9:54:29 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: wastedyears

“.357 magnum semi-auto? First I’ve heard of that.”
I believe they are referring to .357 Sig which is a 40 S&W necked down to 9MM (actually. 355)


151 posted on 08/02/2019 9:57:33 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (The Democrat party. A collaboration of Cloward-Piven and Dunning-Kruger.)
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To: TexasGator

Only the .44 mag guys make more noise.


152 posted on 08/02/2019 10:01:26 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Perseverando

Simmer down cupcake I’ve got 4 ugly ARs


153 posted on 08/02/2019 10:06:46 AM PDT by LumberJack53213
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To: DesertRhino
Glock will be easier to control for all the female agents they decided make wonderful bodyguards

Smaller shields but easier to push in front of the client.

154 posted on 08/02/2019 10:18:52 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: AlaskaErik

There’s a saying: I show my friends my 1911. I show my enemies my Glock.


155 posted on 08/02/2019 10:27:02 AM PDT by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
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To: Conan the Librarian

Safe travels, FRiend.


156 posted on 08/02/2019 10:35:51 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says)
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To: Fightin Whitey

‘’’...and FBI agents on dance floors...”

And DEA agents in classrooms, you know, “the ONLY one here professhnul nuff to handle dis here Glock 40, and BANG....”


157 posted on 08/02/2019 11:36:10 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: crosdaddy

Damn... its good that things go up in value...

The 5.7 is intriguing... zippy little round.


158 posted on 08/02/2019 11:37:18 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: EEGator

You can pick up a .357Sig Glock actually fairly cheap in my neck of the woods. Unless you reload that caliber it can be a touch expensive. I had a local gun/pawn establishment practically begging me to buy the duo-tone .357sig Glock he had in the case and the price was below $400. I walked out with the Glock 29 10mm instead.

As for the 9mm Glock. My wife carries a Glock 17 in her vehicle with two mags and my Dad carries a Glock 19 as his daily carry weapon. If paired with the right hollow point rounds the 9mm is an effective sidearm. If it were just ball ammo, forget it! Give me the .45ACP all day long.


159 posted on 08/02/2019 11:40:58 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: PROCON
"Steve Minguez, a retired NYPD firearms instructor who worked with the Secret Service for several years when he was detailed to the NYPD Intelligence division's dignitary protection unit":“With the 9mm cartridge, you’re getting optimum velocity out of a short barrel,” he said. “With a 9 millimeter, you could fire [a bullet] out of a 4-inch barrel and you’re going to get 1200 feet and change per second,” Minguez said. Yet with “a .38 Special or a .357, they need a much longer barrel to get to optimum velocity – whose top is mid-to-low 800 feet [range].”

What the heck is this guy talking about? Most commercial .357 Magnum loads do more than 1400 fps out of a 4" barrel, and get into the 1500s and 1600s out of a 6" barrel. .357 Sig loads also do more than 1400 fps out of a 4" barrel. Even .38 +P do more than 800 fps out of a 4" barrel.

What kind of charlatans do they have teaching NYPD cops?
160 posted on 08/02/2019 12:01:42 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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