Posted on 07/16/2019 8:10:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
A gap between linguistics and prehistoryThanks to the over 33,000 documents from Hattusha, the capital of the Hittite Kingdom, linguists have been able to gain a comprehensive insight into Luwian culture. Some fundamental publications include the book Arzawa, by Susanne Heinhold-Krahmer (1977); The Luwians, edited by H. Craig Melchert (2003); and Luwian Identities, edited by Alice Mouton and others (2013). Field-oriented excavating archaeologists, on the other hand, never mention Luwians in their explanatory models. The current knowledge regarding the Aegean Bronze Age has been summarized in a number of recently published voluminous works, without attention to any Luwian culture.
For a number of reasons discussed elsewhere, recognition of a Luwian civilization seems to have been delayed. The gap between linguistics and prehistory regarding the investigations of the Luwians has existed for almost a century, since Emil Forrer, the Hittitologist who first identified the Luwian language in the tablets from Hattusha, recognized the significance of the Luwians as early as 1920.
Today, the term "Luwian" is well-established to denote a language, a script and an ethno-linguistic group of people who commanded either one or both of them. Since most Luwian hieroglyphic documents have thus far been found in Early Iron Age Syria and Palestine, the term Luwian is often used to denote people at the eastern end of the Mediterranean during the 10th and 9th century BCE. However, Luwian hieroglyphic script occurs as early as 2000 BCE in western and southern Asia Minor as well. Therefore, the term Luwian is also applied to the indigenous people who lived in western and southern Anatolia -- in addition to the Hattians -- prior to the arrival of the Hittites and during the Hittite reign.
(Excerpt) Read more at luwianstudies.org ...
Interesting stuff, and thanks for posting. I note that the evidence for the Luwians is, at the moment, primarily linguistic, which is probably all future archaeologists are going to have to demonstrate the existence of Florida Man and the Deadites.
What happened to Kupanta-Kurunta?
LOL
Brother Louie
Stories
Album: About Us
She was black as the night;
Louie was whiter than white
Danger, danger when you taste brown sugar
Louie fell in love overnight
Nothing bad, it was good
Louie had the best girl he could
When he took her home
To meet his mama and papa;
Louie knew just where he stood
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There he stood in the night
Knowing what’s wrong from what’s right
He took her home to meet his mama and papa
Man, they had a terrible fight
Louie nearly caused a scene
Wishin’ it was a dream
Ain’t no diff’rence if you’re black or white
Brothers, you know what I mean, come on
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He had his timeline viciously rearranged by some modern dolts.
bttt
Interesting, but somewhat dry and in some places mind-numbing linguistic tracking down of place-names and claims there were two Pacific migrations thousands of years ago.
One comment I thought was really interesting was that places with double names like Pango Pango, Walla Walla, Bora Bora were always at the end of the track, indicating they were a "We stopped here." indicator.
Thanks Oatka, I think I have that around here somewhere.
Thanks again for some fine lists. :-)
I'm surprised no one has made the glaringly obvious joke, though...
Why did the Luvians disappear? They were wiped out by the antediluvians!
Dang. I had a brilliant reply prepared, and apparently it vanished when my poor old CPU decided to freeze. And I don’t remember my reply now. Sooo, this one instead. :^) Good work, BTW.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3764396/posts?page=30#30
Dang. You got here first!
Actually, you got here first.
It is amazing about the ancient people on the planet. How did they fail? Was it by socialism? Or wars...
Conquest led to rule by a different culture, putting pressure on the local culture; devastation by disease often claims the oldest and youngest first, which leaves a demographic dead spot on the younger end, and eliminates a big chunk of institutional and cultural memory on the elder end; other stuff...
Two things to watch out for -- number one, she pushes the "ancient Palestine" line of BS, and number two, the dating of the Luwians is based on the conventional pseudochronology, and is centuries too high.
Cuneiform writing on clay became wildly popular among the governing elites of the Ancient Near East. Although some societies, such as Egypt, only used cuneiform for their international correspondence, the Anatolians additionally adopted cuneiform for domestic use to write Hittite, Luwian, Hattic, and several other languages. But they also developed their own hieroglyphic script for inscriptions in Luwian only. Among other topics, this lecture explores where it came from, how widely it was used, and who could read it. Presented by Petra Goedegebuure, Associate Professor of Hittitology, Oriental Institute, University of Chicago.
Petra Goedegebuure | Luwian Hieroglyphs: An Indigenous Anatolian Syllabic Script from 3,500 Years Ago | The Oriental Institute | Published on February 11, 2016
Luwian Phoenician inscription:
Eberhard Zangger (see the above posts) has put his entire book “The Future of the Past” [2001] online at Academia.
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