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Destroyer of worlds: the 8chan story
Tortoise ^ | June 29, 2019 | Nicky Woolf

Posted on 07/02/2019 12:01:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

On 27 April, before he burst into a San Diego synagogue and opened fire, killing one worshipper and injuring three more, the gunman said goodbye to the community that radicalised him. “It’s been real dudes,” he posted on the far-right politics board, /pol/, on the image-posting site 8chan. “I’ve only been lurking for a year and a half, yet what I’ve learned here is priceless.”

The story was familiar. Six weeks earlier, a 28-year-old had killed 50 people at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. Before starting his attack, he, too, had posted on 8chan’s /pol/ board. “It’s been a long ride,” he had written. He signed off his post: “Meme magic is real.” The first response from an anonymous 8chan user urged him to “get the high score”.

From its effect on the world, 8chan could be ranked as one of the internet’s most dangerous sites. Some have even compared it to terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda or ISIS. The pattern is similar: men – and it is always men – find their way there, and get radicalised into an extreme ideology which drives some of them to violence.

But there is no fundamentalist preacher for the ideology of chan sites. It’s mostly lonely people who find themselves in a febrile information ecosystem without precedent in human history. Chan sites like 8chan are something entirely new: organic communities of anonymous participants that have started to behave almost like a new consciousness, separate and more powerful and dangerous than the sum of its parts.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; History; Miscellaneous; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 4chan; 8chan; banthem; bowlwinder; california; christchurch; disability; fredrickbrennan; islavista; learntocode; massacres; newzealand; programming; qanon; sandiego
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To: Responsibility2nd
the same 8chan people who inspired the killer at the synagogue

Yea, but did they really?

Don't believe everything the deep state/CIA feeds you.

#DontBeASucker


21 posted on 07/02/2019 12:44:14 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Revel; bagster

Gee. Revel is really upset at this 8chan post.

Could it be that 8chan and Qanaon are directly inked together in some way?


22 posted on 07/02/2019 12:49:59 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

inked = linked.


23 posted on 07/02/2019 12:50:42 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

” goodbye to the community that radicalised him”

That must be some powerful juju possessed by those 8 chan posters, to turn people into homicidal maniacs. Not sure you can blame them, anymore than you can blame first person shooter games for inspiring the killer.

Someone screen captured the 8chan thread featuring the previous mass killer, the one in New Zealand. When his online pals realized that he was actually killing people and streaming it live they sure seemed like they were completely shocked.

Not the reaction you’d expect from people who really believe their cyberspace trash talking. But there was one lunatic in their crowd who decided to transfer his cyberspace life to “meatspace”. He announced what he was planning only minutes ahead of doing it, there was not enough time for them to warn the police even if they could have figured out where he was.


24 posted on 07/02/2019 12:51:12 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Responsibility2nd

DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!


25 posted on 07/02/2019 12:51:18 PM PDT by blu (WWG1WGA)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Could it be that 8chan and Qanaon are directly inked together in some way?

Duh?

#WhereYouBeenNukka


26 posted on 07/02/2019 12:57:10 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

The chans were instrumental in getting Trump elected.


27 posted on 07/02/2019 12:57:40 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
The chans were instrumental in getting Trump elected.

Precisely.

This article is nothing more than ANOTHER DS/CIA attempted takedown of The Donald's patriotic digital army.

I worry about anybody that buys into this obvious propaganda.


28 posted on 07/02/2019 1:06:33 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Don’t get suckered in Bags.


29 posted on 07/02/2019 1:07:28 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Revel
Amen. Crazed lunatics use all forms of social media. Does anybody remember the shootings and torture live streamed on Facebook? Does that make Facebook a cause of shootings and torture?

As you noted there is solid evidence of the FBI posting and participating on 8chan threads.

30 posted on 07/02/2019 1:09:09 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: DainBramage

😃


31 posted on 07/02/2019 1:09:26 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: freeandfreezing

Yep. They “glow”.


32 posted on 07/02/2019 1:10:33 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And didn’t the Christchurch shooter live stream on FB?


33 posted on 07/02/2019 1:32:34 PM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: I have an alibi.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Hum. R,2 Seriously? Worried about 8-Chan?

How about the body count surrounding reading inspiring works like “Das Kapital” and the “Koran.”...millions. Since pretty much everyone on F/R has read them or portions of these works and has been inpired to “chit chat” about them you would be surprised to lear that we have not all been converted into a hive of collectivist killers!

(90 degrees outside....off to take a nap!)


34 posted on 07/02/2019 1:54:20 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve both lurked and participated on numerous Chans since I was sixteen, and a lot of it is talk. There are a handful of talented hackers who take to activism, and an even smaller percentage of the communities actually believe what they post. The vast majority is for shock value, especially on random boards. I can’t speak to the political boards, because I haven’t spent a vast amount of time on them, but the posts seem to become more extreme around election time or when something big happens that causes an uproar.


35 posted on 07/02/2019 2:54:01 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Actually when you are looking at your own posts on the chan’s then you see (you) at the top of the posts. This tells you that it is your post. You will never see that for posts that others made.

Now in the screen captures of the posts that the FBI presented to get a warrant for 8chan then that (you) appears on several of their screen captures of offending posts. There is pretty much only one logical way that can happen.

This also tells you that this tactic is used on many forums including this one in order to cause certain outcomes. Sometimes it is to get a forum in trouble. Sometimes it is used just to “Slide” the thread and turn it into dribble that is unrelated to the unwanted topic at hand. Sometimes it just used to turn members against one another.

This is a practiced art that is being used to changed outcomes and get forum topics shut down. Only conservative topics seem to be affected.

One needs to be aware that things are not always what they seem or else one becomes completely gullible, and easy to manipulate.


36 posted on 07/02/2019 5:53:04 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Responsibility2nd

There is the slide since this has nothing to do with Qannon. But you are so biased that you don’t want to look at the facts for this current situation. You should just be interested in the facts, and the truth. Why isn’t this story about How evil facebook is for live streaming horrendous crimes?


37 posted on 07/02/2019 5:58:27 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

Very true.


38 posted on 07/02/2019 6:05:56 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; bitt; bagster; Enigo54

Clowns to the left of me
Fibbers to the right
Here I am.


This sounds like the anti-Trump, anti-free speech MSM.

Nicky Woolf writes for our “ally” the UK.

Err...uhhh, wait a minute, where am I? ;)

https://www.newstatesman.com/writers/317117

Donald Trump’s political theatrics play into Kim Jong-un’s hands

Nicky Woolf - 2 July 2019

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2019/07/donald-trump-s-political-theatrics-play-kim-jong-un-s-hands

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@NickyWoolf
Editor, New Statesman America. @GuardianUS alum. email me: nicky.woolf@newstatesman.co.uk

https://twitter.com/NickyWoolf


39 posted on 07/02/2019 7:09:09 PM PDT by haffast (Alternate universes held together by porridge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It reads like an argument to do away with the first amendment.

40 posted on 07/03/2019 12:00:16 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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