AP-NORC Poll: Trump not boosted by strong American economy [lol]

Dissociated Press ^ | July 1, 2019 | Josh Boak and Hannah Fingerhut

[Olog-hai]

The solid economy is doing little to bolster support for President Donald Trump.

Americans give Trump mixed reviews for his economic stewardship despite the growth achieved during this presidency, according to a new survey by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

Nearly two-thirds describe as “good” an economy that appears to have set a record for the longest expansion in U.S. history, with decade-long growth that began under Barack Obama. More people consider the economy to be good today than did at the start of the year.

But significantly fewer approve of Trump’s handling of the economy, even as it remains a relative strength compared with other issues. The survey indicates that most Americans do not believe they’re personally benefiting from his trade policies. And only 17% said they received a tax cut, despite government and private sector figures showing that a clear majority of taxpayers owed less after the president’s tax overhaul passed in 2017.

These doubts create a possible vulnerability as Trump highlights the economy’s solid performance in his campaign for re-election in 2020. During two nights of debates last week, almost every Democratic presidential candidate found ways to criticize the president by decrying the wealth gap. …

[Olog-hai]

Yeah, keep it up, commie AP. Another fake poll to gnash your teeth over sixteen months from now.

[dp0622]

It started under obama??

:)

You can’t make this stuff up.

Well, the press can :)

[Olog-hai]

That’s all they’ve been doing all week, even over at Fox Business.

[dp0622]

Really?

Well I personally HATE feeling pretty secure about my job and getting 3 or 4 hits a week on LinkedIn compared to NONE EVER under obummer

SMH

They are all idiots.

And all i know is low end graphics.

Guys with big time skills must be getting YUGE offers.

[FreeperCell]

We Are kicking your Ass and you are absorbing it

[atc23]

Since the House went to the democrats in ‘18, it wouldn’t surprise me that a big chunk of “registered pearl clutchers” and weak kneed “moderates” are thinking they can hand the Trump Economy over to Heels Harris or Granny PIAPS v2.0 and all will be the same. The Trump economy would crash hard and we’d be back to the “new normal” of malaise, 8% unemployment, years of negative GDP - like we enjoyed for 8 years under that Kenyan dude.

[SunkenCiv]

Partisan Media Shills update.

[nathanbedford]

Some of us old enough to remember the bad old days can describe a scenario in November 2020 quite contrary to that implied by these polls.

As a student in 1964, I recall being appalled as I was exposed to an open-air Lyndon Johnson re-election rally. A short time later I recall cheering myself hoarse at an indoor Barry Goldwater election rally. Johnson absolutely obliterated Goldwater in that election.

By November 1964, Johnson had been in office about a year as the successor to a martyred president; all the while he had brilliantly performed that role. There was no question in any voters mind who the President of the United States was. In every television appearance he acted as a president striding across the television screens with assurance. A large man, on television Lyndon Johnson was a man in charge. He had launched many programs so the populace had the sense that Johnson was a man who had vision and the competence and energy to carry it out. The economy was strong. By God no one doubted, he was a President!

Barry Goldwater had stolen my heart yet I was in a distinct minority who had not been brought to believe that he was dangerous, an extremist, demonstrably racist (without any evidence of course) and a man likely to get us into war at a countdown from 10 seconds as infamously illustrated by a little girl picking a daisy, and a nuclear war at that.

The description of Lyndon Johnson pretty well fits the recent images of Donald Trump: proceeding on the cynical but likely accurate assumption that the electorate responds not to the minutia of policy but to superficial visual characteristics, i.e. whether the candidate actually seems like a president, and presuming the electorate responds negatively to any candidate successfully defined to be an extremist. In other words, Trump, also a large man, is presenting visual images of a president fully in charge.

Democrats have been trying to label him an extremist, as they attempt to do with all Republicans, certainly not excluding Barry Goldwater, but that attempt perhaps will not be sticking to a man who has just stepped away from military action in Iran, who is renewing negotiations with China, whose personal overtures have revivified negotiations with Korea, all demonstrated vividly on television.

Barry Goldwater sadly obliged Democrats at his convention by declaiming, "moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue" and then slamming the door on himself by doubling down, "extremism in defense of liberty is no vice." I contend that Trump no longer looks like Barry Goldwater. For Democrats to contend as they still do that Trump is an extremist (shorthand for racist, bigot homophobe misogynist and, of course, warmonger) is to ask the television viewing voter to ignore the truth of his own eyes and believe fake news.

What is the truth of our own eyes? The Democrats are disrobing in public and revealing that they are extremist in all things except things anatomical. The internal dynamics of this new socialist party compel its wannabes to attach themselves to one extremist position after another from open borders to free healthcare for invaders, increased taxes, and environmentalism without end. Behold! Party positions seem to be undergoing a polar reversal.

Worse for the Democrats, there is not one of the candidates who has a chance of copping the nomination who cannot be labeled an extremist -just watch the video of each of them raising his/her hand.

There are many caveats to this analogy from 1964, of course. In 1964 Lyndon Johnson carried the whole of the media in his back pocket. In 2020 Donald Trump, like Barry Goldwater, will have the whole of the media on his back. That's why I was careful so far to talk about video images rather than media reports. The question is whether Trump can continue to present video images of himself executing perfectly his commission as President of the United States, video images that are worth more than a thousand articles or a thousand talking heads on MSNBC?

In 1964, Goldwater was presented as an individual defending racism against a civil rights movement on the side of the angels. Lyndon Johnson lied to the country, saying that he would not send boys the Vietnam but it was Goldwater who was tagged as a warmonger. Today, the Democrat party might very well be labeled the party of racists and tribalists dividing the nation. Video images of Antifa garbed like a SWAT team, braining people with pipes makes the Democrat party look the Democrats of 1968 at their convention in Chicago. In this atmosphere, Trump might well succeed in presenting himself as a Nobel Prize-worthy peacemaker.

All of this, of course, depends on the turn of events and whether those events and the images which accompany them can overwhelm the media.

[Candor7]

The leftist liberal fascists are getting desperate now, and propagandizing with outright lies and falsehood.

The question remaining is: “ When will these leftist liberal fascists turn to outright violence?”

I know its coming.

Be prepared.

[Candor7]

Well written. Enjoyed reading it.

[Nifster]

We need to work harder

They’ve set the narrative. It is obvious they are trueing working at stealing an election

[nathanbedford]

Thanks

[exDemMom]

Interesting.

After the first paragraph, I thought that the author must be Nathan.

[mewzilla]

Takes a few clicks and a PDF download to get to it, but check out the poll’s methodology.

ROTF!!!

No wonder they make you work for it, eh?

[exDemMom]

The question remaining is: “ When will these leftist liberal fascists turn to outright violence?”

The violence has already started. The violent fascist group, Antifa, started during the presidential campaign of 2016 and is escalating their activity. The last time I visited San Francisco, I saw Antifa recruitment posters on light poles. All over the country, leftists are dehumanizing anyone who does not support their goal of socialist dictatorship. Right now, they are harassing and sometimes attacking freedom loving people; they are working themselves up towards supporting and even committing mass murder of those who still cling bitterly to the principles of freedom. Our trajectory right now parallels those of other countries that have fallen into socialist dictatorships: Germany, most closely, but also Russia, Cuba, Cambodia, etc. Our best hops now is that enough people recognize what is going on, and that the leftist thugs are limited to a miniscule fraction of the population, one that is too small to take over by force.

[MuttTheHoople]

It’s a good thing Goldwater wasn’t elected, else he’d have gotten us into a ruinous war in Asia...no, wait.

[ScottinVA]

Trump and his campaign need to capture the narrative, and soon. This poll may not be far off the mark, considering the media are in “resist” mode 24/7, and will gleefully lie to support the dems.

[KC_Conspirator]

What a foolish article. But we can expect this nonsense until about late Oct 2020.

[BobL]

That’s the reason for having campaigns. The media may not let Americans know how well the economy is doing, but Trump will.

This reminds me of Trump’s tax cuts. 80% of Americans (at least, maybe over 90%) got a net tax cut, yet 80% of the country is CONVINCED their own taxes went up. Unreal...but then 80% of Americans went to public school too.

[hanamizu]

Very good summary of a time I lived through as well. If you’ll remember, during at least the first year of office of President Trump, there was a drive by the ‘enlightened’, including most of the press, to not ‘normalize’ his Presidency. He would be forced to resign, he would be impeached (as soon as the dems won the House)—ie. he wouldn’t be President very long at all.

So now we get a phrase like “a growing economy for 10 years that began under Obama...” You see the economy grew the whole of Obama’s term, it just didn’t feel like it was growing. But it just happened to take off under Trump—poor Barack, couldn’t catch a break and Trump, wrongly, claims credit. These people, who also believe that men can become women, are mad. I don’t think the country is crazy enough quite yet to entrust them.