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US National born Tulsi Gabbard is not eligible to be president of the US
various ^ | 6-29-2019 | self

Posted on 06/29/2019 6:34:55 PM PDT by morphing libertarian

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To: Redmen4ever

even if born out of the country? Why did McCain need a congressional resolution?


61 posted on 06/29/2019 7:35:10 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Citizen at birth is NOT the same as Article II eligible to assume the office of POTUS.


62 posted on 06/29/2019 7:35:56 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: treetopsandroofs

“I don’t believe Kamala Harris is eligible either.”

A LOT here DO, and haughtily tell us, LITERALLY, “NBC is an outdated concept”.

Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3749544/posts?page=30

Our domestic enemies here, especially the “consistent conservatives”, have their own preferred ineligible candidates they’d like to see in the White House.

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My sincere apologies. The actual quote I tried to cite is much worse:

“NBC is a flawed concept”

“Flawed”, like the Constitution, as I’m sure our domestic enemies intend.

Hussein Heads are the worst.


63 posted on 06/29/2019 7:36:42 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: Redmen4ever

Jennie Spencer-Churchill, known as Lady Randolph Churchill, was a natural born US citizen, and a British socialite, the wife of Lord Randolph Churchill and the mother of British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill.

Under US citizenship law at the time of Churchill’s birth, despite the fact that his mother was a NATURAL BORN US citizen, she could not transmit her US citizenship on to young Winston owing to her marriage to a foreign national, Sir Randolph Spencer Churchill, who was Winston’s father. That would not be legally allowed until the passage of the Cable Act of 1922, well after Churchill’s birth in 1874. The Cable Act only confers citizenship, NOT NATURALLY BORN citizenship. It did not refer to, or alter the meaning of an Article II, Sec. 1, clause 5 “natural born citizen” in any way.

Churchill was granted HONORARY US citizenship by an act of Congress on 9 April 1963. It was understood that his birth to a an NBC citizen US mother in Great Britain did not make him a citizen by law.


64 posted on 06/29/2019 7:36:54 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: morphing libertarian

“It looks to me we’re down to she wasn’t born in the US but a jurisdiction thereof.”

Her knee-jerk supporters HERE are unimpressed, and consider her eligible.

FR is Infested, not just infiltrated.


65 posted on 06/29/2019 7:39:04 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: DMZFrank
"You don’t have to be a US citizen to serve in the US Armed Forces."

True, however, you must be a citizen to receive an officer's commission, which Gabbard has.

66 posted on 06/29/2019 7:40:49 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

there is no doubt, despite other interpretations, she was born in Samoa.


67 posted on 06/29/2019 7:42:34 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Gabbard was a citizen at birth, by virtue of the 1965 Immigration and naturalization Act. She can NEVER be an Article II eligible Natural Born Citizen. She was not born in a US state to 2 citizen parents.


68 posted on 06/29/2019 7:43:56 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: All

“Her mother was a U.S. citizen and so she is natural born. Well, except for Birthers.”

Big Fail.

No, those of us who support the Constitution, and deny ineligible candidates are NOT “Birthers”.

Nosir, not even by THEIR definition:

Birther: a person who subscribes to or promotes the incorrect belief that former US president Barack Obama was born outside the United States and was therefore ineligible to be president under the provisions of the US Constitution.

Don’t you just Love our domestic enemies’ insertion of “incorrect”.

FOAD domestic enemies!!!!!!


69 posted on 06/29/2019 7:45:33 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: treetopsandroofs

well there is no doubt his claimed father was not a US citizen.


70 posted on 06/29/2019 7:48:18 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Verginius Rufus
So she is as eligible as John McCain

No. US personnel (military, diplomats) serving abroad register their children born abroad at birth at the embassy at birth and are automatically citizens. It's why the McCain eligibility question was particulary offensive to anyone who has served in the US military. And no - I was not a Juan supporter.

71 posted on 06/29/2019 7:52:06 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: morphing libertarian

“Her mother, who was born in Decatur, Indiana,”
“Samoans can only claim citizenship if they have a parent who was a citizen”

What am I missing? Was her mother born on US soil to foreign nationals?


72 posted on 06/29/2019 7:52:28 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (If we disarmed democrats gun violence would decrease by 90%.)
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To: morphing libertarian

The constitution does not define what a natural-born citizen means. And the Supreme Court has never interpreted it.

But you don’t necessarily have to be born within the borders of the United States to be considered “natural-born.” For example, John McCain was born on a military base outside the country. Yet no one would question his legal status if he had won in 2008.

It’s also been widely recognized that if someone is born outside the country to parents that are both Americans, then that child is given citizenship. That is actually very clearly stated in Section 301(c) of the Immigration Act.

But like I said, unfortunately the Constitution gives us practically no guidance on what that term means. SCOTUS hasn’t defined what it means when it comes to presidential eligibility. But I will say this...if Tulsi wins the election, the Supreme Court is not going to take it away from her for this reason. You will NEVER get Roberts to do that.


73 posted on 06/29/2019 7:54:07 PM PDT by david1292
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To: Personal Responsibility

no her mother was US after the times article i posted we are down to her note being born in the US but protectorate.


74 posted on 06/29/2019 7:54:16 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: david1292

McCain status was nor recognized that’s why the congress passed an extraconstitutional resolution to cover his ass.-


75 posted on 06/29/2019 7:55:15 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: AndyJackson

The congress recognized McCain being born out of the country was not a natural born citizen. that’s why they passed an extra constitutional intuitional resolution to cover him. no media questioned it.


76 posted on 06/29/2019 7:57:01 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: david1292

Some Internet bloggers have speculated that McCain wasn’t actually born in the Coco Solo military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, but rather a nearby off-base hospital, in Panama


77 posted on 06/29/2019 8:00:39 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/may/12/born-usa/


78 posted on 06/29/2019 8:01:57 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

from factcheck

But McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country’s borders, since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:

Congress: “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”

so why did congress pass the resolution?


79 posted on 06/29/2019 8:05:32 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

Mitt Romney’s father, George, ran for president in 1968, though he was born in Mexico.


80 posted on 06/29/2019 8:06:30 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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