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Britain bans Boeing 737 Max 8 jets from flying in its airspace following Ethiopian Airlines disaster
UK Daily Mail ^ | March 12, 2019 | Julian Robinson

Posted on 03/12/2019 6:57:43 AM PDT by C19fan

Britain has banned all Boeing 737 Max 8 aircrafts from flying in its airspace following the Ethiopian Airlines disaster om Sunday.

The decision made by investigators comes after the fatal Ethiopian Airlines Boeing Max 8 crash shortly after take-off from Addis Ababa led to the deaths of 157 people onboard.

The UK is now among Australia, Singapore, China, Indonesia and Malaysia who have banned the aircraft.

A spokesperson for the Civil Aviation Authority said: 'As we do not currently have sufficient information from the flight data recorder we have, as a precautionary measure, issued instructions to stop any commercial passenger flights from any operator arriving, departing or overflying UK airspace.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: 737max; boeing; boeing737; boeing737max
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1 posted on 03/12/2019 6:57:44 AM PDT by C19fan
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I’m a Boeing guy, but this does seem prudent.


2 posted on 03/12/2019 7:06:19 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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I’m thinking terrorism, and the powers-that-be are blaming the aircraft, so they won’t anger the muslims...................


3 posted on 03/12/2019 7:08:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: C19fan

Boeing supposedly has a software update according to what I’m hearing on the news. Not sure how Boeing at this point knows if software is the culprit? Did they find the black boxes?

I’d read, perhaps it’s not accurate, that a Boeing pilot could basically shut the computer down and take 100% control of the plane, unlike an Airbus where the computer cannot be overridden. I’m sure there’s much more to it than that.

There working OT at Boeing. They will figure it out.


4 posted on 03/12/2019 7:09:47 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Trump... The exorcist of Cultural Marxism)
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To: Da Coyote

Does appear this aircraft has very aggressive software, which is probably great 99.999% of the time....still need trained humans when the sensors fail.


5 posted on 03/12/2019 7:12:23 AM PDT by teevolt
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“computer cannot be overridden”

really? that seems like a really bad idea.

Why have pilots? Worse, why have co-pilots? I though the idea was to have multiple levels of redundancy, people vs. computer and a human backup to the human.

Hearing that other pilots have had problems but were able to correct implies there’s something very wrong here.


6 posted on 03/12/2019 7:21:10 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: C19fan

Some airlines have grounded their fleet.


7 posted on 03/12/2019 7:40:33 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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I think the national aviation authorities are trying to force EASA (Europe’s aviation safety agency) and the FAA to ground all 737 MAX planes.


8 posted on 03/12/2019 7:46:05 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Da Coyote

I hate flying. But this is loony without more info. If there isn’t any to justify the action, this is likely a plot aimed at the US and Boeing.

Cui bono?


9 posted on 03/12/2019 7:52:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: C19fan

It’s interesting that these crashes are usually backwater airlines. Indonesia and Ethiopia.

I’m guessing a LOT more of them are flying over Europe and North America, without a hitch.


10 posted on 03/12/2019 7:55:56 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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Boeing supposedly has a software update according to what I’m hearing on the news. Not sure how Boeing at this point knows if software is the culprit? Did they find the black boxes?

The article says they recovered the black boxes in the Ethiopia crash. Also, Boeing has been ordered to improve the anti-stalling software. I'd look also at the angle of attack probes to make sure they are sending correct AOA information to the computer systems because of GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out).

11 posted on 03/12/2019 8:00:01 AM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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I'd look also at the angle of attack probes...

On the F-4 (I know, showing my age) it was common that a dirty angle of attack probe would give faulty information to the CADC (Central Air Data Computer), which in turn would send faulty information to the altimeters and you'd get some wild altitude readings. I know the auto-pilot system had an altitude-hold mode but probably this new anti-stall system goes way beyond that. Also, pilots were not allowed to use the altitude-hold feature below 10,000 feet, probably because of these problems.

12 posted on 03/12/2019 8:08:00 AM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: Red Badger

If terrorrism you’d have a group taking credit for it already.


13 posted on 03/12/2019 8:08:34 AM PDT by socalgop
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To: fuzzylogic

The recent crash was probably more difficult to avoid given the airport was at high latitude leaving little room deal with the issue, assuming it was mechanical/plane system.


14 posted on 03/12/2019 8:10:25 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: socalgop

Heck, sometimes you get multiple groups claiming credit.

I’m surprised none has as of yet, even though it may be a malfunctioning aircraft....................


15 posted on 03/12/2019 8:16:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: PghBaldy

You mean ‘altitude’?......................


16 posted on 03/12/2019 8:16:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: PghBaldy

I fear this is a sensor/software problem and will be very difficult to diagnose.


17 posted on 03/12/2019 8:22:44 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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The clueless media are driving this. No one knows the cause of this accident. The investigators may have some ideas, but right now, they only have the data from the voice recorder. The Flight data recorder has been recovered, but has some damage, so they can’t retrieve the data yet. I think that they learned their lessons with Flight 800 when the FBI jumped to a conclusion and said that the airplane was brought down by a missile. It wasn’t, the problem was a short in wiring inside a fuel tank. The usual suspects continue to claim that the U.S. Navy shot it down.

When they have a cause, they will announce it. Meanwhile, idiots like Geraldo Rivera and Diane Feinstein will run their mouths on TV and claim to be experts.


18 posted on 03/12/2019 8:33:13 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Red Badger

Yeah i was expecting three factions to be claiming responsibility by Leo


19 posted on 03/12/2019 8:35:18 AM PDT by socalgop
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Back in the old days, before internet, multiple factions could claim responsibility and it would take months to prove who did it. But now with the internet giving instant reports, they can’t do that...................


20 posted on 03/12/2019 8:38:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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