Posted on 12/17/2018 3:17:03 PM PST by CincyRichieRich
Folks, we are at a cross roads...there are no Hannity, Rush, or Beck bombshells to help PDJT. The Fed does its thing tomorrow, and I am not hopeful of Powell backing off a rate hike. The market is being pushed down by hedge fund managers (not little ones, BIG billionaire ones), Steyer, Soros, Buffet (yes, him, too), the Fed, etc.
They will raise rates and we'll be tanking for more days on end, and, some Freepers will say it's just over-valued and continue to pretend.
Does anyone think the market isn't being tanked to prepare for 2020?
Let's say Justice Roberts was blackmailed.
Let's say many congressmen were blackmailed after the unmasking, bugging by Obama, NSA, etc.
Let's say Sessions was threatened.
Let's say Jerome Powell gets threatened by a paid fixer from one of the aforementioned Soros-esque outfits.
To whom will Powell go for justice, protection and such?
The FBI? The DOJ?
Really???
Unless PDJT has some trump cards/aces in the hole, I don't see how we get back to him being on top...right now, I am deeply troubled.
Even if what you opine is true, what do you plan on doing? Sell short and make money.
You are reacting to a sharp market drop, and see conspiracy under every pillow.
I have no way of knowing what is going on, but selling short is not against the law.
You are professionally engaged in managing investment dollars for other people? For 30 yrs?
What would Wall Street be like if there was no such thing as a hedge fund? Hedge Fund seems anti-American to me.
If we don’t get away from this zero percent interest, there will be no cushion to boost the economy the next recession.
Wall Street vs Main Street.
The obsession over the Dow Jones Industrial Average sure does seem like historic folly to me.
Bimgo they are losing money to hurt Trump.
What should I do? My window is only 2 feet off the ground. That ain't gonna help.
30 years and you don’t remember 32 years ago! 1986?
Bueller. Bueller......
You won’t get any help from me. There is just about nobody, including the lame stream media, that does not say this does not make sense. Just listening to ABC news and even they are saying it does not make sense in view of a good economy and no really bad things in view. There is the yield curve change .
All it takes is one person to yell fire in a crowded theatre to cause a panic. I think that is what is going on. Nothing else makes sense to me. I also think it is part of a setup to bury Trump.
I wish I could say that Wall Street had better be careful or they will run investors away for a long time but where woudl they go?
It is a mess. I’m clinging to the edge of the same pit you are in.
Why do gamblers go through cold streaks? The stock market is an international gambling casino.
You are really missing out if you don’t regularly read the brilliant analysis at Conservative Treehouse on this issue.
“Everything happening in/around the financial markets is very predictable when you focus on understanding the principles of Main Street MAGAnomics”
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Some of it I agree with and can see...some is simply too Qish.
The tanking started and MSM appeared ready and shouted recession...
PDJT touted the stock market values...and acted as if he didn’t see this coming. These two points contradict the CTH/Sundance theory.
Sundance almost is saying PDJT is causing the tanking, and that is good, because it will be better in long run. For this to be true, PDJT would not be yelling at Jerome Powell...well, he is yelling at him.
PDJT would have prepared us for said tanking and furthermore, Q likely would have, too.
I can’t buy into it as much as I’d like to, because both things cannot be simultaneously true...
8 years of Obama at 0% Fed Funds rate.
Trump gets in; suddenly we are going to 3%
This is orchestrated.
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Thanks...at least you get it.
The more sorozNazi and nuts like Stryer lose, the better.
Oh yeah the feds want a crash.
This is about what you would expect, if you understand how trading has been in the past ten years. The massive overvaluation we have had was dependent on rock-bottom interest rates.
If you don’t have rock-bottom interest rates, then stocks will have to stand on their own two feet. That is not going to happen at these valuations.
Over the past 10 years, capital has been grossly misallocated into financial-engineering trades that provide high returns at little risk. As these trades unwind, that will put selling pressure on stocks.
What happens when stocks start to go down? Hedge funds and institutional traders who bought on the dips and shorted the VIX will lose their shirt. When they need money to pay their creditors and meet margin calls, they will have to sell all their stocks, good and bad. That’s how the cleansing cycle of the market works. It is painful in the short term, unless you happen to have cash and can buy good companies at low prices..
That all sounds if devoid of globalists and cronies over those 10 yrs, but not so.
The hedgies have a scape goat if they trigger each other’s sell points, like orchestrated dominoes...all they have to do is blame Trump’s policies, and the MSM backs them up on their high brow NPR programs. Then, they get PDJT out of there and make more $$$ with crony/socialist/fascist structures in place. Sorry, you are thusly wrong. Your premise fails.
I too am not feeling very good at all about Trump pulling an out an ace. It is hard to go on much of an offense when you are alone and under siege. As I said in the previous post. They are out to bury Trump and if they destroy us at the same time... so what.
Interesting thing about being a billionaire, there is always enough to manage. They always have more than they can spend. A 50% loss for some is a disaster and for others it is a 50% loss and there will still be enough. Not so with most of us who are working all our lives to build just enough for retirement or have already done that.
Trump’s MO has always been to regroup and recover but eventually you run out of will, energy or time or all three. Eventually, you run out of enough tomorrows.
S&P closed ‘98 at 1229, today at 2545, or 3.7% annual rate of return for the last 20.
If it is being tanked to prepare for 2020, they are starting too soon. They should hold their water another 10 months. I personally think the downturn is part correction and part the chicken littles pulling out until the shutdown is resolved.
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