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Prostate Cancer Treatment - Anyone Here Have Experience
12/03/18 | fwdude

Posted on 12/03/2018 7:07:37 AM PST by fwdude

I have mentioned previously that my rising PSA levels necessitated several biopsies in the past several years. The latest result has been that my "grade" has gone from Gleason Score of 6 (3+3) to a 7 (4+3). I'm soliciting advice and experience wisdom from other FReepers who've been through this, as I am navigating unknown waters.

Surgeon is recommending surgery (radical prostatectomy) but radiation is also an option.

Lot's of questions and concerns. I'm soliciting advice from all quarters on this. Thanks.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cancer; prostate
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To: fwdude

Amygdalin (B-17)


101 posted on 12/03/2018 11:52:30 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Enlightened1

What alternative, or alternatives did he use?


102 posted on 12/03/2018 12:20:10 PM PST by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Captain Rhino

Appreciate your account. I’m scared of the surgery but wanted to get examples where people DID have lingering effects and disabled function.

Yeah, I’m a pessimist. :)


103 posted on 12/03/2018 12:28:22 PM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what it allows with impunity.)
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To: Captain Rhino

By the way, I was told 1 week with a catheter and 4 to 6 weeks off activity (work, exercise, etc.) This is long enough.


104 posted on 12/03/2018 12:32:13 PM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what it allows with impunity.)
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To: fwdude

Look into Proton Therapy. I think there is a proton treatment center near M.D. Anderson. Loma Linda was the First. It seems like there are few side effects.


105 posted on 12/03/2018 12:33:10 PM PST by GILTN1stborn ( #rememberbenghazi #extortion17 #draintheswamp)
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To: fwdude
I had prostate cancer surgery at 60. The doctor told me my options, surgery or radiation. He said the success rate was about the same with both procedures. The problem was that if I took the radiation route and it wasn't successful then surgery would no longer be an option.

My wife and I discussed it and we decided on the surgery. I had just had surgery 2 years before for pancreatic cancer and I wanted the cancer out of me. There are some issues I have to deal with but I'm a 10 year survivor of pancreatic cancer and an 8 year survivor of prostate cancer.

I'm not recommending either procedure but I'm happy with the choice we made.

106 posted on 12/03/2018 1:48:10 PM PST by Jaxter (Pro Aris et Focis)
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To: fwdude

Bookmark for later


107 posted on 12/03/2018 2:16:42 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (< < Wandering aimfully > >)
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To: Lua Buom
"You can have radiation if surgery fails but not surgery if radiation fails."

That's what my surgeon told me as well. He said it didn't matter to him as he did both procedures and would charge me the same either way. He was great. His bedside manner was great. He made me laugh a lot.

108 posted on 12/03/2018 2:16:58 PM PST by Jaxter (Pro Aris et Focis)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I agree. The medical profession will not treat you well. They fried my father like a tomato when he got lung cancer. They should have allowed him to die in peace. They took his money and spat him out.

I’ve had colon polyps removed. I’m done. No more of their expensive horrors. It’s in God’s hands and I have a living will so they can’t touch me. When it’s my time, it’s my time.


109 posted on 12/03/2018 2:31:07 PM PST by Luke21 (Vote, vote, vote doesn't work, work work.)
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To: fwdude

They told my husband he should get a biopsy (about a 7), but when we looked up how they do the biopsy and the fact that they have a good chance of missing any cancer, he decided not to do it.
That was about 5 years ago Since then he has gone to Duke medical center.

They have him on Finasteride. Look up the origin of the medicine. Interesting.

Now he has about a 3 and a smaller prostrate.

This is not a cure for cancer, but it helps to lower the reading and supposedly lowers the chance for cancer. If your readings stay up high on this medicine, then you may
want to do the surgery.


110 posted on 12/03/2018 2:35:51 PM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: fwdude

Check out the medicine Finasteride.
Plenty of articles.


111 posted on 12/03/2018 2:37:57 PM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

My father in law had the radiation seeds. Other than turning his lower regions black for a time, he got leukemia and died about 10 years later.


112 posted on 12/03/2018 3:00:24 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: fwdude

Saving


113 posted on 12/03/2018 3:17:14 PM PST by Wasichu
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To: Lakeshark

Baking Soda and molasses combo. Along with vitamins, minerals and trace minerals.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baking+soda+and+molasses+cancer+cure

Although this flushes out all your nutrients. Meaning you can get sick easily. So you have to keep remineralizing with vitamins, minerals and trace minerals (look into .

The best way in my opinion ( I am not a doctor and this is not medical advise. Do this on your own research) is to 1) alkalize your body with (lemon water), 2) then detoxify it (juicing, spiritual, chlorella, Barley grass, wheat grass,celery) and 3) regenerate with (Fish Oil, Coconut Oil, flaxseed oil, Mega doses of vitamin D3, C, B complex, e (multi tocopherols) and selenium.

Research iodine (himalayan pink salt, nascent iodine), raw bitter apricot seeds (https://www.apricotpower.com/) and food grade hydrogen peroxide, ozone and oxygen treatment.


114 posted on 12/03/2018 3:21:03 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: fwdude

The PSA is a chemical the prostate coats the sperm with. The PSA weakens the cell wall of the egg to allow entry. To get a valid PSA test result, don’t have sex within two days of the test.


115 posted on 12/03/2018 3:22:27 PM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . ")
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To: DEPcom
A seed is inserted directly into the prostate tumor.

With the exception of removing the prostate itself, which I would choose at my age, there are risks involved.

A friend of mine had the seed which ultimately burned into his colon and he had major problems as a result........

I would rather have it removed completely than treat it with all the different remedies being offered.........

116 posted on 12/03/2018 3:23:18 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: ManHunter

Two weeks ago today, I had a radical prostatectomy using the DaVinci laparscopic robot, which is much less invasive than the traditional, “gut you like a deer” prostate surgery. I looked at it this way: It’s cancer, it’s in me and I want it out.


That was my diagnosis and what I did nearly three years ago. My urologist said it was moderately aggressive and would spread to bones if not treated. About six months ago my PSA started going up again. I am now nearly 3/4 through a daily radiation routine—two minutes a day for 39 days. There is no indication that the cancer has spread, but some of the ‘little bastards’ are still active where the prostate was.

What is so strange, and I’m told it is quite common, is that I feel fine and am in perfect health—except for the cancer. I figure that either I and my doctors will kill it or eventually it will kill me. Obviously, I’m hoping for the former.

To the original poster: You will get lots of advise on what to do. I decided to take my doctor’s advice. He knows about this stuff and I don’t. I didn’t get a second opinion for the simple reason that what if it contradicted the first—do I then go for a third? I wanted that cancer out of me ASAP. But you will have to make your own call. Good luck. I hope we both beat this thing.


117 posted on 12/03/2018 4:20:22 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: fwdude

I OPTED for the radiation treatment. They used this big automatic machine that was computer directed to focus on the prostate and it rotated around my supine body.

Treatments were easy and quick because I was at a great private hospital that kept appointments (I hate waiting at Dr.s office)

There were a specific numbers of treatments that were completed over one summer. I also had a few chemo infusions. No after effects.

Been clear of cancer warnings in my blood tests ever since.


118 posted on 12/03/2018 4:33:03 PM PST by wildbill (Quis Custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen?)
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To: outofsalt

Be a little cautious there too. Some of those proton therapy groups expanded too quickly and some of their patients should be just as well served by conventional radiation therapy.

“By Coral Garnick
Staff Writer, Puget Sound Business Journal
Nov 26, 2018, 2:51pm
The SCCA Proton Therapy Center has filed for Chapter 11 to allow it to refinance and pay off debt it has been unable to pay down while still caring for oncology patients.”


119 posted on 12/03/2018 5:36:17 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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BOOKbump


120 posted on 12/03/2018 7:43:26 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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