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I received a letter from Xerox yesterday (10/09/2018) informing me they are canceling my retirement benefits which are; Medical, Dental, Prescription Drugs, and my Life Insurance.
1 posted on 10/10/2018 8:35:25 AM PDT by Deo et patriae
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To: Deo et patriae

Multiply that by millions when the government is broke and can’t pay Social Security payments, Medicare, Obamacare, food stamps, rent subsidies, free school lunches, etc etc etc.
Save your money while you can.


2 posted on 10/10/2018 8:39:21 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Deo et patriae

Doing what Kodak did


3 posted on 10/10/2018 8:43:09 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: Deo et patriae

This is why defined benefit programs are a bad idea.

No company (and no government) can predict the future.


4 posted on 10/10/2018 8:45:52 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Deo et patriae
canceling my retirement benefits ... Medical, Dental, Prescription Drugs, and my Life Insurance.
As a former Kodak employee (34 years), I feel your pain. Good luck.
5 posted on 10/10/2018 8:46:12 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Those big companies weren’t planning on people living as long as they are.

They thought there would be a never ending chart of growth and enough workers to pay the benefits.

It’s bad that retirees are losing benefits, but how did companies not have the foresight to see that their plan was not sustainable?


6 posted on 10/10/2018 8:47:27 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Deo et patriae

If they’re not in bankruptcy and your contract terms don’t allow cancellation for perpetuity, sue them.

most companies relying on 401k now.


7 posted on 10/10/2018 8:47:51 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Deo et patriae

I’m sorry to hear that. The big shots (the company executives, the union leaders, and the politicians) make one bad decision after another. But it’s always the 9-to-5 guys who pay the price.


9 posted on 10/10/2018 8:49:26 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Never love your company because it will never love you back.


10 posted on 10/10/2018 8:52:19 AM PDT by rexthecat
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To: Deo et patriae

Sorry to hear this happened to you. Best wishes for finding alternative arrangements that give you the care you and yours need.


11 posted on 10/10/2018 8:54:46 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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Enron also comes to mind.


12 posted on 10/10/2018 8:54:51 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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We just aren’t dying as young as we used to.

sorry to hear it. Hope you are old enough to take advantage of those benefits ( except life ins.) under Medicare.

My uncle worked forever for the Teamsters. He was notified that the retirement fund goes to zero 2025. Teamsters supplied an alternate plan to save the fund for a good while (basically a reduced retirement monthly amount). Obama’s people rejected it.

My son, who is in mid 30’s, fully vested in his retirement fund, found out his fund is no longer fully funded. He will eventually be in the same boat as my uncle.


14 posted on 10/10/2018 8:58:28 AM PDT by stylin19a ( Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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I was whacked by my Fortune 50 company when I became Medicare eligible.


15 posted on 10/10/2018 8:58:56 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Deo et patriae

So sorry for your loss.

I didn’t know that American corps. give cradle to grave benefits! When you work for yourself or for small cos., you might have a 401k, but no dental, medical, life insurance.

Sounds overly generous and one would be smart to foresee the well runs dry for these kinds of programs. Our next national crisis will be just like your xerox shocker. There simply is not enough money to continue socialized medicine, social security, government pensions, etc.

I wish you the best, deo et patriae.


16 posted on 10/10/2018 8:59:09 AM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine and education!)
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Hope you are able to find away around what appears to be a major personal hit.

This is obviously a key marker and unless top management has proceeded in step with board recommendations, it is past time to fire some of them.

Hope the board also has been scaling back built-in exec management compensation/benefits in proportion to the average hit taken by a retiree. Selling off marginal operations, bonuses to only those that actually produce spikes in profits, etc. Otherwise, one would expect morale to plummet, loss of key players, etc., etc.

Good luck with this challenge! The mountains generally get steeper at the top.

17 posted on 10/10/2018 8:59:28 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Obama's "Remaking of America" continues apace in the absence of effective political opposition.)
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I’d think they’d have a contractual obligation to pay them, unless bankrupt.

I mean they promised them to you as part of your payment as an employee.


18 posted on 10/10/2018 9:01:45 AM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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I would never feel comfortable relying on any corporate entity for my future well-being, but being self employed I kind of don’t have a say in that.
Heck even 20+ year veterans or any state employee shouldn’t gamble everything anymore, look at what California, New York, and Illinois are facing in the next decade.


19 posted on 10/10/2018 9:01:45 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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I am very sorry you are going through this. My prayers are with you.


20 posted on 10/10/2018 9:02:10 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Sorry to hear about your woes.

Are there still corporations even promising post-retirement benefits, such as Xerox was providing, in this day?

My folks had that type of coverage, but warned us - regardless of what promises were made, by companies - to NEVER plan on that as first line of coverage.


21 posted on 10/10/2018 9:06:00 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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I think you can never assume those things will happen. Should have a caveat, “If we are still even in business.” There are few people who get this kind of package of benefits these days, beyond government employees of course.


25 posted on 10/10/2018 9:13:16 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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Sorry to hear this, prayers up for you and all families affected.


26 posted on 10/10/2018 9:16:31 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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