Posted on 08/22/2018 1:34:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin
DNA extracted from bone fragments found in the cave show the girl was the offspring of a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father.
The discovery, reported in Nature, gives a rare insight into the lives of our closest ancient human relatives. Neanderthals and Denisovans were humans like us, but belonged to different species.
"We knew from previous studies that Neanderthals and Denisovans must have occasionally had children together," says Viviane Slon, researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology (MPI-EVA) in Leipzig, Germany.
"But I never thought we would be so lucky as to find an actual offspring of the two groups."
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
What’s with the Debbie Wasserman pic?
Family reunions might have been tense.
“Hey, weren’t you the guy that ate Uncle Og?!?”
My unnamed sources say the parents met by the river, not in a cave.
If Neanderthal humans and Denisovan humans are different species, than so are Europeans and East Asians.
Well, they have to dance around the fact that this find actually is good evidence that many of the supposedly different species of “homo” were really just minor variations of regular old humans. It’s not convenient to admit that when they want to construct their whole grand narrative that there is a line of progression from apes to men.
Yet, we now know that Denisovans and Neanderthals co-existed, and interbred. We also know that Cro Magnon (who they now have admitted were homo sapiens) and Neanderthals co-existed and interbred. How many other of the homo “species” would we have to admit were all genetically compatible variants if we could only recover DNA to test it? I would wager it would be just about all of them, save the ones that look nearly exactly like the great apes.
If that were established, we would be left with the fact that all the variations represented either simple change in the same human species over time, or local variations in humans that aren’t much different than the local variation we still see today. That’s not the kind of conclusion that evolutionary biologists are hoping to promote.
That’s not the norm though. There is relatively little genetic variation in the entire feline genus, despite the large variety of appearances. Same goes for the canines. That is why they can interbreed and still produce fertile offspring in hybrids.
The main barrier to producing fertile offspring seems to be the variation in chromosome count across the genus, and almost all feline species have 38 chromosomes. Some South American species lost a couple chromosomes along the way and only have 36. If you try to breed a normal cat or big cat with one of those species, any offspring would be sterile, except perhaps in the rarest of circumstances.
Similarly, canines all have 78 chromosomes, except for a couple of species of jackal, so they can all produce viable, fertile offspring.
This is not the case with most other genus of animals. Usually, the variation in number of chromosomes tends to be larger, which makes hybridization rare, and fertile hybrids even rarer.
A world where the only law was lust? Is this a real movie?
:)
A Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father
So easy a caveman could do it
So easy, a caveman could do it...or Laz
Yes it is.
I guess you must be young if you did not know about this movie.
Masking tape
They really want them to be anything but homo sapians.
Then they can talk about "extinct lines" when what happened was groups of humans were isolated for a bit and then as humanity spread out and grew in number those populations were found and began to interbreed.
Have to wonder how much of this comes from a desire to clone these people and treat them as property because they "aren't really people".
Yes, I am a cynic. Or a realist. Hard to tell the difference any more.
The terminology is arbitrary and changes according to whatever definitions scientists are currently using for convenience in their work. Inn recent years I’ve noticed a tendency for scientists and environmental activists to split species up [for example a very common nonendangered species like the Sun Conure] into multiple “new” species in order to claim one or more or even all of the “new” species are thus endangered and each new species and its habitat are in dire need of protection.
In fact, Sun Conures easily breed with similar looking Gold Capped conures and Jenday Conures and even the differently colored Nandays too, and all produce viable young. I think they are more accurately described a natural breeds or races of sun conure than as wholly separate species, and the breaking up of what was formerly known as sun conure into a bunch of new “species” on the basis of wholly superficial if not imaginary differences is just political.
For all practical purposes, these different looking humans are all equally human, just of a different race.
Thanks BenLurkin. Somehow I managed to miss this, and your ping
They sure had nice teeth back then. And the jelly fish implants look almost real.
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