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Mom who lost entire family in wrong-way crash wants cops to press criminal charges
New York Post ^ | July 27, 2018 | Chris Perez

Posted on 07/28/2018 11:54:17 AM PDT by grundle

Edited on 07/28/2018 4:38:42 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The New Jersey woman who lost her husband and four kids in a deadly wrong-way crash in Delaware earlier this month is calling on cops to press criminal charges.


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To: grundle

This is horrible for this person, a person would be hard put to understand.

Now to the facts of the case. If there was no intent, or chargeable offense like drunk or drugged, playing a game or inattention due to sex going on, or cell phone usage, it was just an accident. We all will die someday, and a court case and jail time will not solve the problem of people being dead. It also will not prevent another such accident by this guy or another. Sometimes things just happen, like when a frozen airliner toilet load hits someone in their bed. Or someone falls asleep at the wheel. There is not always intent, or neglect. stuff actually does happen. Maybe this lady is the same one who held the sign up in London to protest Trump saying “WHY DOES STUFF KEEP ON HAPPENING”? IDK


21 posted on 07/28/2018 12:31:14 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: dragnet2
possibly criminally.

That doesn't get you to probable cause, much less beyond a reasonable doubt.

22 posted on 07/28/2018 12:31:59 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: mabarker1

Word of advice: A TV show may be the least reliable source of information ever invented in the history of mankind. Watching a cop show to learn about police work is like watching “Gilligan’s Island” to learn about ocean navigation.


23 posted on 07/28/2018 12:35:05 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: dragnet2

I have an idea ... run over a truck tire and a bumper at a speed of 60+ miles per hour, then come back and tell us how easy it was to control your vehicle.


24 posted on 07/28/2018 12:37:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: JimRed
Until all the facts are in I’ll withhold judgement. Oh...and, is he of a “protected” class?

It took me all of about 1.5 seconds to google his name and see that Hubbard is a white guy.

He worked for Aledak Metalworks and was driving a company vehicle with the company logo on the side.

25 posted on 07/28/2018 12:38:00 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: NativeSon

Thanks. That explains a lot. It’s the state’s fault, and they know it, unless toxicology (or just maybe, cell phone records) gives them something upon which to hang a prosecution. “New cable barriers coming to Delaware’s Route 1 after deadly crash”.

The cable barriers aren’t particularly good - they tried them here after some cross median head-ons. The ones I know about are being replaced by concrete or steel. The cable is a lot cheaper. It will help, but not solve, the problem.


26 posted on 07/28/2018 12:38:09 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Alberta's Child

That would have been obvious on the spot.


27 posted on 07/28/2018 12:43:50 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: PAR35

Solve what problem?

It’s nice to keep opposite traffic from the other side, but what happens if they bounce off the barrier and go sideways into “same” traffic?

Solve one problem, create another.


28 posted on 07/28/2018 12:44:44 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: grundle

Did they mention the kids weren’t wearing seat belts ? Feel terrible for the family but you need to take precautions when driving.


29 posted on 07/28/2018 12:48:58 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Only MS-13 and Democrats want ICE Abolished)
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To: PAR35

Please clarify that.


30 posted on 07/28/2018 12:52:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Alberta's Child
I have an idea ... run over a truck tire and a bumper at a speed of 60+ miles per hour, then come back and tell us how easy it was to control your vehicle.

That's too easy. I've seen 16' foot ladders, washing machines, bumpers, wheels and 60lb pieces of truck retreads and vehicles spinning on their roofs on the freeways. Did I hit them? Hell no.

Ya know why some people hit that debris while others are able to avoid it Al?

31 posted on 07/28/2018 12:56:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

So let me get this straight ... you’re suggesting that someone should face criminal charges in a wreck just because they can’t match your driving wizardry when avoiding a washing machine falling off a truck?


32 posted on 07/28/2018 1:03:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Ya know why some people hit that debris while others are able to avoid it Al?


33 posted on 07/28/2018 1:04:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
but what happens if they bounce off the barrier and go sideways into “same” traffic?

No guarantees, but a whole lot less likely to be fatal. Certainly the energy at impact is going to be several multiples lower.

34 posted on 07/28/2018 1:04:22 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Alberta's Child

Btw, I never implied or suggested that.

Now, do ya know the big reason why many people hit debris while others are able to easily avoid it?


35 posted on 07/28/2018 1:05:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

How so? An investigator at a crash scene will not immediately know which debris was on the road BEFORE the crash.


36 posted on 07/28/2018 1:06:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Drew68

Probably not drunk - my first thought - but texting. That’s not that hard to determine, although phone companies are now refusing to release this data, so it might be slower. There was somebody else in the vehicle, too, so i assume they’re interviewing this person.

The mother is right, though; he obviously didn’t just have a mini-sleep at the wheel, such as somebody with diabetes or even just tiredness might have, but he wasn’t paying attention for one reason or another, possibly texting or possibly on the phone with his boss, or whatever. So that should be at least negligent homicide or some such thing. It makes other drivers a little more attentive, if nothing else.


37 posted on 07/28/2018 1:08:06 PM PDT by livius
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To: dragnet2

No — tell me.


38 posted on 07/28/2018 1:08:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Alberta's Child
An investigator at a crash scene will not immediately know which debris was on the road BEFORE the crash.

What if there are 2 or 3 witness stating there was a washing machine in the middle of lane #2.

What if the debris is stuck in the grill of the vehicle involved?

39 posted on 07/28/2018 1:09:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Alberta's Child
Anyone driving should know this. The quickest way to hit debris on the roadway is to follow vehicle#1 ahead of you, too closely. The vehicle/truck you're following too closely suddenly moves from lane #2 to lane #1, and you, who are following too close are unable to react in time. I've seen this repeated.

Another reason is driving too fast for road conditions. Ie: Taking curves at 75 in a 45 and suddenly debris appears giving you no time to avoid it. Yet another reason is total distraction, not paying attention to your direction or travel, texting, looking down, using the phone, arguing with other occupants etc...

40 posted on 07/28/2018 1:16:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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