Posted on 07/06/2018 7:09:14 PM PDT by Norski
They are good for me emotionally. They calm and soothe me. But they are no substitute for human companionship. I'm glad I have them, but they are not "furry children."
Serious as a heart attack....as the saying goes!
YES, our neighbors think the same of their dog, just that it’s fine with them around and in their sight most of the time but when loose turns into a menace....sorry!
What I know comes from decades with Emergency services. I also don’t eat sushi. I personally know people attacked by pits. I’d like to see the morons who own them jailed when their monsters hurt people. They are pathetically stupid dogs who are bred to turn fighting-vicious at the least trigger, like a silly young woman who leaned down to pet the 2-yr-old “rescue” and got her face chewed off. Mutilated for life. I hate these dogs, and I’m coming to hate the fools and “tough guys” who own them.
There are plenty of stats that show pits can be deadly, but for some reason there is no publicity. It's like when Muslims run over a sidewalk of pedestrians, but we're not allowed to speculate as to motive. Rescue shelters are always ready to unload a pit on someone naive who wants to "virtue signal" what a hero he is. They say things like "he'll just lick you to death".
You have a lot of hate in you about this issue. I don’t think it’s possible to have an intelligent, let alone civil, conversation with you about Pit’s. You’re not only vested in your hate and dug in; you’ve demonstrated there’s nothing that could possibly convince you there are plenty of Pit’s who aren’t what you think they all are.
I’ll leave you with this one thought though. All dogs can hurt people; even those little yappy dogs I don’t care for. Medium to large dogs can break bones with their bite but they normally don’t; at least not without a good reason like they are protecting their human’s. There’s a mutual trust between dogs and people. When that trust is broken and the dogs are mistreated; we should not be surprised when they stop being “good dogs”.
No questions. I just hope you don’t mind if I interject the opposing opinions when I see these anti-dog threads.
No truer words spoken. It takes work, but it is worth it. Of course, it takes a lot less work when you have a highly trainable dog like a German Shepherd as opposed to a Beagle. Training a GSD the basics doesn’t take much time at all, but the downside is that they need training many other breeds don’t need, such as problem barking, over protective guarding and separation anxiety. So, you can’t win for losing I guess.
Now see, there is the big difference between dogs and cats, aside from how much more intelligent dogs are.
Dogs were bred for what they do. Cats are bred for how they look. So personality and function are pretty much an afterthought in the breeding of cats. It would be interesting if someone would breed only friendly, fearless, obedient cats and see what breed of cat they had after 30 years or so of breeding just that.
But yeah, as far as personality, cats aren’t bred for anything. They just “are”.
I know there's no getting through to those who refuse to be warned. But at least homeowner's insurance will no longer cover the liability of fools who court such danger. I also know of some big fat lawsuits against these dog owners.
And I also credit an earlier poster who sees a spiritual dimension to this.
Cave paintings verify this claim.
Unsocialized dogs are a nightmare to train.
Very smart dogs. Smarter than than their owners, in many cases.
OCD tennis ball fetishes and outsmarting sheep is the standard of canine intelligence?
Drawn by a caveman sociologist no doubt.
I have been around big dogs that were really well trained, had well trained labs. Being around a well trained dog is a pleasure. But I have never have been around a well trained small or miniature dog. They must exist, I have seen them in shows and TV. I wonder if brain size has anything to do with it, or they just weren’t originally bred for training like working/hunting dogs or what.
Freegards
Very well. I look forward to reasoned opinions.
Do please note that I am not anti-dog; I have owned, cared for, or lived with at various times Labradors of all colors (black ones are generally the brightest and have a sense of humor) miniature schnauzers, mini poodles, Old English Sheepdogs, Newfoundlands, Papillions, Great Danes and Dachshunds (shared offices with these two) Shi Tzus, Australian Shepherds, Chihuahuas, and various mutts and mixed breeds, and one Irish Wolfhound.
I also visited friends’ houses where pit bulls lived; a notable dog tore apart completely and partially consumed the interior of a friend’s car - I believe it was a Sunfire.
About ten years ago, the pit bulls again came onto my personal radar, but it was not until the last four years that the maulings, deaths, and attacks rose to the top of my attention, and became a research priority. When I began to really look into the matter, I found the numbers. At that point, I began posting.
Thank you for your interest.
You must have met up with a bad boxer; that’s all I can say. Aggression is just not their reputation.
I think you are right.
Most owners of small dogs handle their pets quite differently than owners of larger breeds. For example, big dogs must learn voice commands like “come” and “stay,” in part so their owners can keep them safe. Many small dogs never receive this training because their owners find it easier to simply pick them up and move them out of harm’s way.
https://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/07/19/training-small-dogs.aspx
Are Small Dogs Less Obedient Than Large Dog Breeds?
A 2014 study found a correlation between a dog’s size and his level of obedience — in short, the smaller the dog, the worse the behavior. The majority of the misbehavior can be attributed to the dog’s owner. “It’s very typical for trainers to experience working with small dog owners who don’t view basic manners or obedience as important for their dog as with larger size dogs because it doesn’t feel as necessary when your dog is small,” says Blake. She says many owners simply “pick their dog up” when it misbehaves instead of dealing with the behavior issue.
https://www.dogster.com/the-scoop/large-dog-behavior-training-breeds-small-dogs-less-obedient
Yeah, okay, but I don’t see the relevance to politics. FR is basically a politics and religion forum. Not a dog bite forum. Now if something happened with a dog and it made the front page then it would be relevant current events.
I see you use these topics to post with: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; History; Pets/Animals.
Care to tell me what dog bites have to do with Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; History in relation to politics or religion?
These come across as a self-serving anti-dog activist threads to me. Maybe I’m wrong or maybe you donate a thousand dollars a month to have the privilege of posting these. I could just ignore them but as a dog-lover; it goes against the grain to allow them without calling you on them when I see them.
You can say you like dogs but it doesn’t come across that way. All I see is you hate dogs and are afraid of them. You aren’t alone either. More than a few agree with you but again; what does it have to do with politics or religion? I see the occasional outlier threads about off the wall subjects but this one has been consistent.
Just remember, for every one person who dislikes dogs and fear them, there are likely 10 who love them unconditionally with no fear at all. The rest couldn’t care less one way or the other.
From my point of view you are the boy that cried ‘wolf’ far too many times. What is it you hope to accomplish here that you haven’t already; many many times? Do you think this subject needs to be wash, rinsed, then repeated over and over again? To what end? Everyone already knows certain breeds are potentially dangerous. What more can you possibly hope to accomplish by repeating the same thing over and over and over and over and over again?
Thank you, Boomer, for a thoughtful response.
It is natural to question the actions of a person, who seems to have a real problem and insists on sharing in places that seem inappropriate. I sympathize with the individual, but perhaps another outlet would be more beneficial.
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