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The Pit Bull Problem. A Few Root Causes
Charles Danten Blogspot ^ | July 6, 2018 | Charles Danten, former veterinarian

Posted on 07/06/2018 7:09:14 PM PDT by Norski

The Humanization of Animals

From the beginning of domestication, our ancestors in their great wisdom worked hard to erect a barrier between animals and humans in order to avoid falling into the trap of animal humanization and the very damaging sentimentality that accompanies it, as much for animals as for humans. Since animals are not inert objects that can be exploited at will without any risk of illness, injury, and environmental damage, it was necessary for reasons of common sense to take precautions to avoid the worst.

PETER SINGER But for the past fifty years or so, animal advocates, such as Peter Singer, the Karl Marx of animal liberation – a progressive movement from the left, in the same line of thought as the other libertarian movements, such as feminism, pedophilia, LGBT, gay marriage, gender theory, bestialism, multiculturalism, massive immigration, no borders, and globalism (55)(56) – an attempt is made to destroy the above barrier by extending human rights and privileges to animals.

Shifts in meaning and the replacement of words and expressions specific to animals by their human equivalent are thus currently observed. So, instead of saying, for example, “animal,” the word “child” is used, “buy” is replaced by “adopt,” and “pound,” by “shelter.” The name of the breed is capitalized as in humans and the names given to pets are mostly human names. Recently, for progressive reasons of the type listed above, Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, a notorious no-borders like his father, has even legalized sex with animals... as long as there is no penetration! (57)(58) Who will police this law and how... remains a mystery!

(Excerpt) Read more at charles-danten.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; History; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: blog; blogtrash; business; chet99; dog; dogs; global; honesty; hysteria; maul; pitbull; rationalthought; realitycheck; spam; truth
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This is a long article. Here is the first portion.

Financial and Commercial Interests

Some people explain the current pet fad by a growing compassion of society towards animals and humans. Others, like the author of this article, see in this animal madness erroneous beliefs dating back to the 19th century, when it was falsely believed, that a relationship with a pet could improve the moral and spiritual fibre of mankind. American child psychiatrist, Boris Levinson, the instigator of Animal Assisted Therapy (AAT), consecrated these false notions into “science” in the sixties. The pet industry, sniffing a golden opportunity to improve business used this pseudoscience to stimulate the demand for pets and the sale of goods and services. Their marketing campaign was a huge success. Today, one out of two households now has one or more animals and America and most Western countries have literally gone pet crazy. (36)

To give you an idea of the economic importance of this industry in America, it is the eighth in importance of the retail trade, ; it is larger than that of toys, hardware, and jewellery. According to the American Association of Pet Products, its annual turnover went from 17 billion US dollars in 1994 to 63 billion in 2016. (37)

1 posted on 07/06/2018 7:09:14 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski
Opening sentence

The Humanization of Animals From the beginning of domestication, our ancestors in their great wisdom worked hard to erect a barrier between animals and humans in order to avoid falling into the trap of animal humanization

Orly?

2 posted on 07/06/2018 7:14:11 PM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: Norski

Just sounds like somebody pretending to know something but actually knows next to nothing on the human-dog relationship. — at least from what little I read.

Almost reminds me of a Vet/Baptist minister I visited once (1). He had his priorities wrong. Go to vet to help your dog, go to church to help your soul.


3 posted on 07/06/2018 7:19:00 PM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: Norski

I have pointed out before in Albuquerque shelters there is on average 140-150 pit bull and pit bull mixes up for adoption and given month that’s and average of 1600 to 1800 doges a year. Now (put aside the mental harm and damaged caused by the abandonment and abuse) many of FR’s resident pitbull expert tell us that these dogs are safe when handled by trained skilled people. There are that meny people with those skills and training in the whole city for one years worth of these dogs much less the numbers being turned our year after year.


4 posted on 07/06/2018 7:20:39 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Fhios

God made everything, including animals. In my view, our relationship to animals is like the distance between New York and Boston, whereas the distance between God and us is like the distance between Earth and the edge of infinity - yet God loves us. We should treat animals at least as well as God treats us.


5 posted on 07/06/2018 7:26:43 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Norski

The Humanization of Animals is almost impossible to avoid.
Another phrase would be ‘domestication’, which is the very least we can expect from a pet that we take care of.
Some animals are capable of a more intense degree of domestication than others. Many times the tendency is genetic, as with a dog and a wolf. Other times the ease of domesticating an animal becomes more a matter of circumstance. Some creatures of the woods can be trained to live with humans if the environment is there very early in their lives.

They need to be imprinted with the muscle memory of coexistence. I have seen squirrels, ravens, deer and raccoons treated as pets. The sad part is that many have to chose one lifestyle over the other. Once a fawn has the scent of Man on it, the Doe may reject him as a clear and present danger.


6 posted on 07/06/2018 7:26:58 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Norski

Supposedly only 5% of dog owners even bother to train their dogs, even the barest minimum stay, sit, no, come. That makes for miserable dogs and miserable people. I have never been around a trained small dog, they are much more likely to jerks or morons than bigger dogs, at least that I have observed. That might be a brain size thing, I don’t know. But I would sure rather be nipped by an untrained jerk terrier than an untrained jerk pit bull.

Freegards


7 posted on 07/06/2018 7:28:37 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Norski
when it was falsely believed, that a relationship with a pet could improve the moral and spiritual fibre of mankind.

Making it up as he goes along, it appears.

Man domesticated the dog, but cats domesticated themselves.

8 posted on 07/06/2018 7:31:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Ransomed

Don’t omit the problem of inbreeding in puppy mill dogs.


9 posted on 07/06/2018 7:34:34 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Kartographer

Thank you. From the same article:

Wishful Thinking

If lack of training, inadequate or insufficient training has a lot to do with biting, especially if biting inhibition is left out of the training scheme, inadequate care or surveillance also has a significant impact on behaviour. Badly socialized and poorly fed animals, those that are left alone for much of the day, those that lack exercise, those suffering from boredom and various psychological and physiological pathologies caused by domestication, such as the diseases stemming from the emotional dependence (sepaaration anxiety) are real time bombs.

Quebec’s law B-3.1 (art.8) requires that owners of a dog provide the latter with “stimulation, socialization opportunities, or environmental enrichments that suit its biological needs,” but who is responsible for enforcing this law? Do we have the personnel and the technical means required to enforce it in every house, street and Park? Not likely. (42)

In the end, these recommendations full of good intentions amount to wishful thinking or as skeptics would say, “the price-vice-pays-to-virtue.” While we wait for the winds of change that will finally wipe out dog bites, sometime in the far future, at an unspecified date, its business as usual.


10 posted on 07/06/2018 7:36:54 PM PDT by Norski
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To: PAR35

What do you think of the decriminalization of bestiality in Canada “as long as there is no penetration?”?


11 posted on 07/06/2018 7:38:08 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Are severely inbred breeds harder to train or what?

Overall violent crime is down, excepting some inner city communities. But also over all we are pretty far down the cultural slope, and the pet industry is thriving more than it has ever been.

Freegards


12 posted on 07/06/2018 7:40:19 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Norski

Most folks know of at least one case where the pet owner(s) loved the pet(s) more than their own children. Sadly, I am one that knows of such a family. My wife and I used to visit them when their son and daughter were school age, and those kids attended our church. We could see how the father would caress his dogs, and notice how the kids were just ordered around, and criticized.

The kids were jealous of the dogs. I remember the daughter telling us about one of the dogs dying, and the family burying the animal: “everybody was crying, especially dad, who I had never seen cry before. I said to the rest of the family, “why are we crying, it was only a dog’”.

The kids grew up with a resentment for their dad that continues to this day.


13 posted on 07/06/2018 7:41:06 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Kartographer

FNC shows a commercial fairly often in which the ASPCA asks for contributions to save neglected dogs. The photos of the dogs they show are mostly pit bulls. I would give nothing to keep a single pit bull alive but might be willing to contribute to an organization that euthanizes them.


14 posted on 07/06/2018 7:46:02 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: PAR35

Cats pick their owners and then train them to their specs.

If you have more than one cat it can feel like moonlighting.


15 posted on 07/06/2018 7:50:47 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: Norski

About all I got out of this article was yes; we westerners like our dogs.

As a life-long dog lover and “owner”; I know dogs don’t feel “love” the same way we do. They do feel deep affection, appreciation, jealousy, pain, sadness, and pretty much everything else humans do so it comes as no surprise to me that some people will humanize (within reason) their dogs. I see my 4 dogs as my fur kids but I never forget they are animals and not human kids. Their intellect varies somewhere between 2 or 4 years old of a human though. Dogs are twice as smart as cats. They can learn at least 200 words and signs. Is it really any wonder human fall deeply in love with their dogs even when we know they can’t return that love in the same way. However; what they lack in their ability to love like we do they make up for in pure loyalty and what some folks call unconditional love which we know is a deep affection. Not the love we feel. What is love but a bunch of chemicals and neurons working together to give us that feeling anyway?

As for those sick freaks who have sex of any kind with animals... disgusting.

I will agree on one point about Pit Bulls. They are not all the same. They have different temperaments and some have a naturally aggressive nature. Some are alpha’s so they want to be in charge. They can get testy and get into fights with dogs who get out of line. I freely admit I would be hesitant to have a Pit around small children. Well; one of the aggressive ones anyway. Some are as docile as a lamb. I also know kids do stupid things when no one is looking. Sometimes they do things to animals that can make them mean. Kids can be real idiots. I have to wonder when I hear of a dog attacking a family member if that member did something to that dog; regardless of breed.

Pit’s were chosen to be fight dogs because of their muscular strong bodies and strong jaws but the biggest reason is they are so malleable and compliant to what their human wants from them. As far as I’m concerned; anyone who uses and abuses any dog for dog fighting is good for only one thing. To fill a grave. Better yet; just turn them into dust via cremation and flush them down the toilet.

Those who poach animals deserve the same treatment. Kill them and feed them to the wild meat eaters in the wild. Karma is a wonderful thing. Poetic justice.

The OP of this thread appears to be on a vendetta against Pit Bulls for some unfathomable reason. It should be balanced with opinions from the other side. I guess I will be one of those.


16 posted on 07/06/2018 7:54:01 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Norski

I love my two dogs and they love me. They are not aggressive but would lay down their life for me if I was in danger.

Hell would freeze over before I own a pit bull.


17 posted on 07/06/2018 7:56:37 PM PDT by cpdiii (Cane Cutter, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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Texas and America were a lot better before Pit Bulls. I do not trust them and do not trust their owners. They have mauled and killed many innocent and unsuspecting beautiful Americans so to me they are demons just waiting to attack.

Boxers are almost their equal. I have been attacked by two boxers. First one when I was about 10 years old. It broke through a gate and penned me against a wall. Second was our neighbors who thought I was telling stories about it when it broke out and one day just jumped on me when we were standing and talking! I was ‘only’ the second person she pounced...ugh.

I exercise with pepper spray/mace, not because of humans but because of dogs folks drop off in the country.


18 posted on 07/06/2018 8:12:57 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Norski

Charles Danten, former veterinarian.....


19 posted on 07/06/2018 8:14:00 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: PAR35

Who ever saw a “domesticated” cat?


20 posted on 07/06/2018 8:19:06 PM PDT by WVNan
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