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New research unveils true origin of ancient turquoise
https://phys.org/ ^ | 6/14/18

Posted on 06/18/2018 1:37:26 PM PDT by BBell

New research published today in the journal Science Advances overturns more than a century of thought about the source of turquoise used by ancient civilizations in Mesoamerica, the vast region that extends from Central Mexico to Central America. For more than 150 years, scholars have argued that the Aztec and Mixtec civilizations, which revered the precious, blue-green mineral, acquired it through import from the American Southwest. However, extensive geochemical analyses reveal that the true geologic source of Aztec and Mixtec turquoise lies within Mesoamerica.

Geochemist Alyson Thibodeau, assistant professor of earth sciences at Dickinson College, and a team of researchers from the University of Arizona, California State University at San Bernardino, and the Museo del Templo Mayor in Mexico City, measured the isotopic signatures of Mesoamerican turquoise artifacts associated with both the Aztecs and Mixtecs. These isotopic signatures function like fingerprints that can be used to determine the geologic origins of the turquoise.

Specifically, Thibodeau and her research team carried out analyses of lead and strontium isotopes on fragments of turquoise-encrusted mosaics, which are one of the most iconic forms of ancient Mesoamerican art. Their samples include dozens of turquoise mosaic tiles excavated from offerings within the Templo Mayor, the ceremonial and ritual center of the Aztec empire, and which is located in present-day Mexico City. They also analyzed five tiles associated with Mixteca-style objects held by the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian. The analyses revealed that turquoise artifacts had isotopic signatures consistent with geology of Mesoamerica, not the Southwestern United States.

"This work revises our understanding of these relatively rare objects and provides a new perspective on the availability of turquoise, which was a highly valued luxury resource in ancient Mesoamerica," said Thibodeau. The work is the result of a decade-long collaboration between archaeologists and isotope geochemists to understand the nature of turquoise circulation and trade across southwestern North America. In earlier published research, Thibodeau showed that isotopic signatures could distinguish among turquoise deposits across the southwestern U.S. and identified the geologic sources of turquoise artifacts from archaeological sites in Arizona and New Mexico.

Thibodeau said that long-standing assumption that Mesoamerican civilizations imported turquoise from the Southwest had not been fully substantiated with evidence and that the new geochemical measurements unveil a different story. "These findings potentially re-shape our understanding of both the nature and extent of long-distance contacts between Mesoamerican and Southwestern societies, said Thibodeau. "I hope this inspires people to be skeptical of claims."


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: ancient; aztec; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; mesoamerica; mixtec; precolumbian; turquoise
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So much for what we were taught.
1 posted on 06/18/2018 1:37:26 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Settle Science takes it in the shorts once again


2 posted on 06/18/2018 1:38:59 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: BBell

Dang, and they had ‘consensus’ too!............


3 posted on 06/18/2018 1:39:30 PM PDT by Red Badger (When Obama and VJ go to prison for treason, will Roseanne get her show back?...)
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!....................


4 posted on 06/18/2018 1:40:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (When Obama and VJ go to prison for treason, will Roseanne get her show back?...)
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To: BBell

Intersting.

So, where are the turquois mines in Mesoamerica?


5 posted on 06/18/2018 1:42:01 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BBell
New research unveils true origin of ancient turquoise


6 posted on 06/18/2018 1:47:30 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: BBell

I smile when scientific facts are smacked down.


7 posted on 06/18/2018 1:50:36 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: BBell

Considering the volcanic activity common to mesoamerica and the dinosaur killer crater on the eastern coast of the area; the origin there makes a lot of sense.


8 posted on 06/18/2018 1:58:34 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: BBell

Pretty easy to lose a mineral mine in the jungles of Central America.
They’re still finding entire cities there.


9 posted on 06/18/2018 2:13:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

It’s amazing what is being found by amateur sleuths using google earth.


10 posted on 06/18/2018 2:18:31 PM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: BBell

I used to find turquoise in the hills above Fort Huachuca and made jewelry from it.


11 posted on 06/18/2018 2:18:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Red Badger. There's isotopic matches, but no mining sites? Interesting.

12 posted on 06/19/2018 6:32:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: bgill

Scientific facts were not smacked down.

On the contrary, it was archeological speculation that was refuted.
the fact there were some mesoAmerican turquoise does not mean that there was not turquoise imported from the north

Wiki

United States

A fine turquoise specimen from Los Cerrillos, New Mexico, US, at the Smithsonian Museum. Cerrillos turquoise was widely used by Native Americans prior to the Spanish conquest.

Bisbee turquoise commonly has a hard chocolate brown coloured matrix.

Untreated turquoise, Nevada, US. Rough nuggets from the McGinness Mine, Austin. Blue and green cabochons showing spiderweb, Bunker Hill Mine, Royston
The Southwest United States is a significant source of turquoise; Arizona, California (San Bernardino, Imperial, Inyo counties), Colorado (Conejos, El Paso, Lake, Saguache counties), New Mexico (Eddy, Grant, Otero, Santa Fe counties) and Nevada (Clark, Elko, Esmeralda County, Eureka, Lander, Mineral County and Nye counties) are (or were) especially rich. The deposits of California and New Mexico were mined by pre-Columbian Native Americans using stone tools, some local and some from as far away as central Mexico. Cerrillos, New Mexico is thought to be the location of the oldest mines; prior to the 1920s, the state was the country’s largest producer; it is more or less exhausted today. Only one mine in California, located at Apache Canyon, operates at a commercial capacity today.

The turquoise occurs as vein or seam fillings, and as compact nuggets; these are mostly small in size. While quite fine material is sometimes found, rivalling Iranian material in both colour and durability, most American turquoise is of a low grade (called “chalk turquoise”); high iron levels mean greens and yellows predominate, and a typically friable consistency in the turquoise’s untreated state precludes use in jewellery.

Arizona is currently the most important producer of turquoise by value.[5] Several mines exist in the state, two of them famous for their unique colour and quality and considered the best in the industry: the Sleeping Beauty Mine in Globe ceased turquoise mining in August 2012. The mine chose to send all ore to the crusher and to concentrate on copper production due to the rising price of copper on the world market. The price of natural untreated Sleeping Beauty turquoise has risen dramatically since the mine’s closing. The Kingman Mine as of 2015 still operates alongside a copper mine outside of the city. Other mines include the Blue Bird mine, Castle Dome, and Ithaca Peak, but they are mostly inactive due to the high cost of operations and federal regulations The Phelps Dodge Lavender Pit mine at Bisbee ceased operations in 1974 and never had a turquoise contractor. All Bisbee turquoise was “lunch pail” mined. It came out of the copper ore mine in miners’ lunch pails. Morenci and Turquoise Peak are either inactive or depleted.

Nevada is the country’s other major producer, with more than 120 mines which have yielded significant quantities of turquoise. Unlike elsewhere in the US, most Nevada mines have been worked primarily for their gem turquoise and very little has been recovered as a byproduct of other mining operations. Nevada turquoise is found as nuggets, fracture fillings and in breccias as the cement filling interstices between fragments. Because of the geology of the Nevada deposits, a majority of the material produced is hard and dense, being of sufficient quality that no treatment or enhancement is required. While nearly every county in the state has yielded some turquoise, the chief producers are in Lander and Esmeralda counties. Most of the turquoise deposits in Nevada occur along a wide belt of tectonic activity that coincides with the state’s zone of thrust faulting. It strikes about N15°E and extends from the northern part of Elko County, southward down to the California border southwest of Tonopah. Nevada has produced a wide diversity of colours and mixes of different matrix patterns, with turquoise from Nevada coming in various shades of blue, blue-green, and green. Some of this unusually coloured turquoise may contain significant zinc and iron, which is the cause of the beautiful bright green to yellow-green shades. Some of the green to green yellow shades may actually be variscite or faustite, which are secondary phosphate minerals similar in appearance to turquoise. A significant portion of the Nevada material is also noted for its often attractive brown or black limonite veining, producing what is called “spiderweb matrix”. While a number of the Nevada deposits were first worked by Native Americans, the total Nevada turquoise production since the 1870s has been estimated at more than 600 tons, including nearly 400 tons from the Carico Lake mine. In spite of increased costs, small scale mining operations continue at a number of turquoise properties in Nevada, including the Godber, Orvil Jack and Carico Lake mines in Lander County, the Pilot Mountain Mine in Mineral County, and several properties in the Royston and Candelaria areas of Esmerelda County.[7]


13 posted on 06/19/2018 6:42:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming))
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To: Pelham
Settle Science takes it in the shorts once again

There's no such thing as "settled science" -- just "scientists" who think so. This discovery is exactly the way real science works. Any hypothesis can be disproven when contrary evidence is discovered.

14 posted on 06/19/2018 9:20:34 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

I know. Settled Science is just me engaging in mockery.


15 posted on 06/19/2018 9:27:53 AM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: RJS1950

Turquoise is usually found in conjunction with copper ore. If there are copper deposits in Mexico or Central America it would not be surprising to find turquoise there.

The question is where are they? If any of note.


16 posted on 06/19/2018 10:15:39 AM PDT by wildbill (Quis Custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen?)
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There probably are copper deposits in Mexico.

The Aztecs had quite a few copper axes, as documented in the Discovery and Conquest of Mexico.


17 posted on 06/20/2018 6:15:41 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: wildbill

Copper mines in Mexico.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Copper_mines_in_Mexico


18 posted on 06/20/2018 6:17:16 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BBell
So much for what we were taught.

What were you taught? I was taught to examine the evidence and follow where it leads.

19 posted on 06/20/2018 6:18:38 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Bernard Marx
This discovery is exactly the way real science works. Any hypothesis can be disproven when contrary evidence is discovered.

YES!!!

20 posted on 06/20/2018 6:20:00 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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