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All Things Prepping, Simple Living, Back to the Basics [Survival Today, an on going thread]
vanity | 2/26/18 | CottonBall

Posted on 02/26/2018 12:12:20 PM PST by CottonBall

I’ve been missing the vast amount of information on prepping, survival, camping, simple cooking, the old ways of doing just about everything – all the things nw_arizona_granny knew so much about and shared with us, along with numerous other posters with a vast array of skills and knowledge.

We have our various related-threads here, a recipe thread, a gardening thread, and even a prepper thread. They are all great and I don’t mean to take anything away from those and the hard work their owners put in.

But I was missing a place to talk about ALL those things, to get the camaraderie that we used to have on granny’s thread.

I learned how to can on those threads! The pressure canner was not my friend, I thought, but I bought one and stared at it for a month, intimidated. Then I read the directions for another month. But with the help and encouragement of posters on granny’s threads, I jumped in and now have my very own food storage room in the basement with lovely jars of shelf-stable meats, vegetables, and fruit. When we moved, I fashioned my food storage room – and insisted upon having a basement – from what I learned on her threads. Getting started gardening was from her threads. Making my own cleaning products….the list is endless.

So I thought I would take the chance and start another comprehensive prepper thread and see how it goes. I used to have granny’s ping list since I made one of the threads for her, but alas, with numerous computer changes, I cannot find it. So please pass this onto any posters you think might be interested.

We’ll just keep it running until..whenever. Granny created a new thread at 10,000 posts or so. I do like the idea of having ONE thread to go to – because often I cannot find or keep track of the weekly threads. I won’t be posting lots of recipes or tidbits myself – to any mods concerned about the size of this thread. I’d just like a place to chat, post questions, post ideas, make new prepping friends.

Here are granny’s threads, if anyone wants to peruse them:

nw_arizona_granny’s Thread #1

nw_arizona_granny’s Thread #2

nw_arizona_granny’s Thread #3



TOPICS: Food; Gardening; Health/Medicine; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: brb; cooking; food; gardening; granny; prepper; preppers; prepping; simpleliving; stinkbait; survival; vision
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To: CottonBall

I’m happy to make what he likes. I just feel it’s too much trouble to also make things I like that he doesn’t.

Well, life is short. If I like crunchy granola, I’m going to make it! (While I still have enough chewers...haha.)

He doesn’t like chocolate fudge cake either (the depression era recipe) whereas I could eat half a pan but I won’t make it because weight...


1,621 posted on 02/03/2021 9:44:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: CottonBall

Warm pot of water not to exceed 135’F should do the trick. Any much higher will pasteurize it


1,622 posted on 02/04/2021 5:41:11 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: CottonBall

A friend set 11 hives out on my property last spring. They were all started with new queens so no harvest from them yet.

I expect to see a jar or two in my hand later this year.


1,623 posted on 02/04/2021 6:37:40 AM PST by Augie
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To: Augie

What flowers will they pollinate?

When I lived in the Sierras, a neighbor let a friend put a bunch of hives on her land for temporary storage. Those bees ended up visiting all of the cabin owners, making many of them stay inside. They stung quite a few of us. How did you end up not getting Sting’s?


1,624 posted on 02/04/2021 7:01:17 AM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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To: little jeremiah

Yeah it helps to have someone in the house that will help dispose of the desserts. Otherwise I end up eating it all myself.

I’ve gotten into the same habit you have. I make what he likes and then I’ve run out of energy. I need to start making lists of things I like and make it occasionally. It’s been so long I kind of forget what I like. I need to go through my recipes.


1,625 posted on 02/04/2021 7:02:59 AM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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To: little jeremiah

Shared in another thread and thought to share here too.

Pseudo-slide towards God’s side...

Right now we’re in a dark time as we all cry out; “how long oh Lord?” and we await, pray for and look for justice.

In this time it might be good to go back to the basics.
Maybe this isn’t for everyone
Maybe it’s only for one
Quiet time going back to the basics
Verse by verse
Chapter by chapter
Book by book
While we wait...

Easy to listen and follow along
Open the Word
(Maybe start with Esther)
No crazy
Just the word, explained and taught
Easy forrmat, no hype, sound doctrine

Here is an excellent resource to spend some time in the word...

http://server.firefighters.org/chucksmith.htm

Two nights each week
Ours is OT Wed/NT Sun
And you’ve studied the whole in six months

Shared with all
That each and all are blessed
As we wait and pray


1,626 posted on 02/04/2021 7:05:57 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: little jeremiah; CottonBall; metmom
little jeremiah :" Find a drop to join
https://www.azurestandard.com/drop-point-locator "

Thank you for the hot link.
They seem to be similar to, or are, the Lehmans of the State of Oregon .
Extensive supplies (!); I enjoyed getting lost in their online catalogue.
Also, the trucking "drop points" develop a like thinking and and doing community of consumers.

1,627 posted on 02/04/2021 7:46:36 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I started ordering from them more than 15 years ago, and their delivery route mostly OR and some nearby western states. Paper catalogue and call in order by phone, they have vast amount of more products. I mostly by bulk grains, flour, and ingredients, not a big pre-prepared food buyer. A lot of local small famers buy animal feed and farm supplies from them.


1,628 posted on 02/04/2021 8:54:07 AM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: CottonBall

None of the hives are within 300 feet of a house. There is a quite a bit of hayfield/pasture land here, acres and acres of red clover/alfalfa/etc.

The bees visit all of Mrs. Augie’s flowers, but they aren’t aggressive at all. Mostly they forage in the fields and woods. It’s quite a racket when they fly over my house on the way back to the hives in the evening.


1,629 posted on 02/04/2021 9:48:37 AM PST by Augie
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To: CottonBall; cherry

Yep, set it in the sun on a moderate day but not too hot a day. If you don’t have a warm day, put it in a car in the sunshine, but again, don’t let it get too hot.

Someone gave me a little glass jar of honey two Christmases ago and I thought good grief and put it on a high shelf in the pantry. Now, I’m glad they did. It might come in handy one day.


1,630 posted on 02/04/2021 12:27:48 PM PST by bgill (Ear piece to Biden, "Salute the Marines." Biden repeats message outloud but no comprehension.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; All

Thanks to tik and Jane for the Ping to this article. The first part has rules for living in a Marxist regime. The second part is a list of items to have. I’ll separate them into two post.

From https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/02/first_steps_for_surviving_whats_coming_our_way.html

So here are some common-sense rules for living in a repressive Marxist regime.

Print these rules out, make a bunch of copies for your family and friends, and read it when your stressed, frightened, upset and angry.

Rule #1. Observe, but don’t absorb the madness.

Rule #2. Prepare for the inevitable shortages of a progressive Marxist economy.

Rule #3. Don’t believe anything the MSM media tells you. They are not your friend. Investigate alternative sources of information. Stay off social media.

Rule #4. Prepare your family’s digital ark for safekeeping the past.

Rule #5. Identify one other person you can trust with your life besides a family member. Discuss your plans, fears and hope for the future with this person. There may come a time when you will need a true friend.

Rule #6. Have a plan B, and a plan C for moving and storing your supplies away from the prying eyes of government and from nosy friends and neighbors.

Rule # 7. Stay well under the radar of federal, state and local governmental entities, social media, and educational institutions. Pay your taxes, put on an impassive face to the world, and trust no one who is not well known to you.

Rule #8. See Rule #1.


1,631 posted on 02/04/2021 12:49:01 PM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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To: CottonBall

From
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/02/first_steps_for_surviving_whats_coming_our_way.html

It’s interesting that at the bottom it says the writer uses a pen name because he fears retaliation.

Oh….where was I? So here is a basic non-Second Amendment related, list of what you and your family should consider socking away for the inevitable progressive Marxist shortages ahead. All of these items should be purchased in multiple stores, just a few items at time over the next year. Please don’t clear any shelves, let others have an opportunity to also purchase these items.

How much to buy? A 12–18-month supply of most of these items should suffice for the first round of national shortages. Twelve to fifteen months from now, toss some grass into the air and see what direction the political and financial winds are blowing. You will know what to do next.

Over the counter medications – aspirin, Acetaminophen, peroxide, antacids, multi-vitamins, vitamin C and D, bandages, cold, allergy and cough medicine, foot care, and microwavable heating pads
Soaps, shampoos, toothpaste, razors, shaving cream, toothbrushes, floss, mouthwash, tampons and condoms, toilet paper and paper towels.
If you are life dependent on prescription medications, talk to your doctor about building a 12-month cushion of those important medications.
Matches, Bic lighters, fire starters of all types, chain saw supplies, axes, and seasoned firewood if you have a working fireplace or wood stove.
Batteries, flashlights, windup emergency portable radios –AM/FM and shortwave, kerosene lanterns and supplies, plus three solar chargers for your cell phones and tablets.
Trade and barter items – booze, canned or freeze-dried food, coffee and tea, spices, chocolate, pocket knives, matches, flashlights and headlamps, reams of paper and printer ink, chain saws, wood splinters and solar powered cookers.
An electrical generator with some on-site fuel. Plus, plenty of extension cords.
General hardware – tarps, rope and twine, canvas straps, work gloves, chains, wire, glue, light bulbs, lock and keys, lubricants, lumber and knives with replaceable blades.
Garden supplies – seeds, fertilizer, hoses, and hand tools.
Food for 8-12 months, plus water filtration devices for 12-18 months of water consumption. Plan on filtering a minimum of 2 gallons per person per day.
Pet food, pet medications and litter box/poop bags for your pet.
Sanitation supplies — portable toilets with disposable liner bags.
Extra climate appropriate clothing, especially socks, shoes and undergarments.
Computer supplies — paper and ink for you printers, back up keyboards and mice, ethernet cables, power strips and charging cords.
Buy American if and when you can.
Supplies for your hobbies, crafts and outside interests, especially if you’re a hobby/home seller of your goods and services.
Have a bike with a basket, and spare parts.
Please consider getting in better physical shape, no matter your age or ability. Walk more, eat better. Get your COVID vaccination. Cut down on your computer time and stay the heck off all social media. Pray. Meditate. Read. Love you family and tell them so often.

Stay as calm as you can and be really nice to everyone. Our planet, our country, and our family, friends and casual acquaintances will require an extra smile a day plus a kind word. The Marxists and the MSM are gleefully injecting the country with digital heroin 24/7 hoping to make you angry, upset, fearful and helpless.

You must not let them succeed.


1,632 posted on 02/04/2021 12:50:32 PM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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To: All

Those were numbered when I copied them, I promise! Must have been a bulleted type thing. Sorry for posting a mess!


1,633 posted on 02/04/2021 12:51:34 PM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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To: Augie

That’s neat that you can hear when the bees are coming and going.


1,634 posted on 02/04/2021 12:53:42 PM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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To: CottonBall
I will be happy to do so.

I kept notes so I will have to dig them out and compile them.

Off the top of my head there are three steps to take before setting up a hive. First thing though is check the laws in your area. Even if you are in the country.

Second is checking to see what kind of plants you have around for bee food. You will need early, middle and late blooming plants. You may need to buy some flowering bushes to provide your hive with early nourishment.

You will also need to check to see if you (or your neighbors) have any no-no plants. Grayanotoxins will make you sick and may kill you.

Third is find a local bee guy. You can buy a bee nuc easily by mail but a locally created nucleus will have bees that are adapted to your local conditions. If you can find one who is willing to teach you your journey will be much easier.

Setting up a hive is a long term project. It is about four-five years to have a stable harvestable hive that you can take wax and honey from.

1,635 posted on 02/04/2021 1:23:46 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: CottonBall
In your post #1631 :

"Rule #5. Identify one other person you can trust with your life besides a family member.
Discuss your plans, fears and hope for the future with this person.
There may come a time when you will need a true friend."

My Response : "Trust,..but verify"- President Ronald Reagan.
Test out their loyalty (by an emotional, physical, or financial test).

"Rule #6. Have a plan B, and a plan C for moving and storing your supplies away from the prying eyes of government and from nosy friends and neighbors."

My Response : Have a secret plan, known only to you, yourself, as a "fail-safe" plan, or cache.

1,636 posted on 02/04/2021 1:25:20 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: CottonBall
CottonBall post # 1624 :
" They stung quite a few of us. How did you end up not getting Sting’s? "

Bees are social, communal insects but here are some of the things they don't like :
Loud noises near the hive (ie. lawnmower/ automobile backfire)
Thunder and Lightning
Sudden thermal change before the storm/ barometric pressure changes
Fuzzy clothing (ie: flannel, wool - because their feet get snagged)
Stinky odors
Dark clothing - reminds them of bears/ natural predators
Smoke - which signals danger to the hive, and the brood/ pupae/ immature bees

Bees work collecting flower nectar and pollen from Dawn to Dusk, and travel in a straight line ( Hence the term : 'making a Beeline') right from source to the hive.
It is best to avoid the beeline (!)... Ya think ?

1,637 posted on 02/04/2021 1:47:43 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

A couple questions if you don’t mind.

Do you need a bee suit?

And how many plants would an average hive needed. I suppose we should go by volume of plants since they would be of different sizes.. Of course it also depends how many flowers they produce. Anyways just didn’t want them to go hungry.


1,638 posted on 02/04/2021 6:01:54 PM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“Test out their loyalty (by an emotional, physical, or financial test).”

How would you recommend testing those things?


1,639 posted on 02/04/2021 6:03:11 PM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I never knew that they flew in a line. The English phrases are just perplexing, and some make perfect sense. But my cousin from Italy different English in school couldn’t figure out what are phrases meant. We probably have more than most languages.

Dark fuzzy clothes, now I know for next time!


1,640 posted on 02/04/2021 6:11:00 PM PST by CottonBall (MAKE REPUBLICANS WHIGS AGAIN!)
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