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How to survive an APOCALYPSE: Expert reveals the five key things city dwellers should do (tr)
Daily Mail ^ | November 24, 2017 | CECILE BORKHATARIA

Posted on 11/25/2017 12:35:42 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

From Hurricane Irma to the Northern California wildfires, this year has seen its fair share of natural disasters.

These disasters may have you thinking about what you should do in the eventuality one hits your city - how do you prepare and should you think about leaving?

According to an expert, a lot of what drives large-scale evacuations is mass hysteria and fear, and most natural disasters don't require an immediate evacuation because they can be predicted, for example hurricanes.

However, there are certain things city dwellers can do in preparation for a sudden disaster.

John Renne, the Director of the Center for Urban and Environmental Solutions at Florida Atlantic University, told The Week that while people don't necessarily need to evacuate during disasters, they should be prepared for one.

Firstly, Renne recommends that people should plan on staying in their homes and cities as opposed to fleeing.

This is because there aren't many situations where you would need to evacuate an entire city.

And for some types of disasters, such as chemical attacks, it's safer to stay indoors rather than leave. Even during the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York City, only a small part of the city required evacuation.

It's more common to require evacuating only impacted sections of cities rather than entire cities.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Humor; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: citydwellers; crisis; prepper; preppers; prepperslist; shtf
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Read Ferfal.


41 posted on 11/25/2017 5:37:24 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: Candor7
1) Get to water and a boat while heavily armed . . .

As a charter member of the Free Republic Boating Club, I would warn people against this strategy. You would be surprised how often boats overturn when loaded with guns and ammo.

42 posted on 11/25/2017 5:38:06 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: grania

A Greyhound ticket to Nashville or Memphis would have been the B move. (The A move being a $79 Allegient Air ticket to Cincinnati.

But, people who spend their last dime on Lotto tickets usually are tapped out when the storm arrives.


43 posted on 11/25/2017 5:43:42 AM PST by anton
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

L8r


44 posted on 11/25/2017 5:43:47 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Candor7

Did you have to use your stores of gold?


45 posted on 11/25/2017 5:46:46 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: CharlesOConnell

Toilet paper is #30? It goes in the top 5, along with water, guns, ammo, and wine.


46 posted on 11/25/2017 5:47:48 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Candor7
Sailboat and a horse. lol!

You don't have to worry about my mobility, or my lesser abilities, or those of my neighbors.

We live in the mountains, with forests, rivers and streams on all sides, all of us with clean deep wells. We're not running anywhere, surely not to some damned boat to flee "to the nearest relatively unpopulated place".

We're there already.

But why would a Midas like you need weapons, ammo, food or anything at all? You have piles of gold, apparently, which is "the only currency that will work," as you say.

I guess in our own ways we are both pretty well satisfied with our situations, right? I certainly wish you, your horse, your boat, your chainsaw and your gold all the best.

47 posted on 11/25/2017 5:54:07 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: CharlesOConnell
Bible, Shakespeare (something to feed the soul)

48 posted on 11/25/2017 5:57:23 AM PST by aspasia
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To: Postman Pat

And for your loaf of bread, are you going to give them 1/10 oz of gold, or a gram?

What do you think you are going to get for change?

Quite honestly, if it gets this bad it is likely most people are going to die anyway.

The reasons gold and silver have been considered money will have disappeared by that time. Not forever, mind you. But in the end your food and medicines are going to be the key to making it through alive.


49 posted on 11/25/2017 5:59:36 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Interesting list.

Seems like every day has one or more things we’re supposed to commemorate assigned to it.

I think it would be interesting if we had a national preparation weekend, where everyone shut off their electricity, phones, water, internet, etc. and spent the weekend simulating a disaster. Would certainly open a few eyes, even being just two days.

Would be a lot more useful than “screaming at the sky because I hate trump” day.


50 posted on 11/25/2017 6:01:34 AM PST by chrisser
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To: CharlesOConnell

Really seems to make the argument for staying put (If viable / safe).


51 posted on 11/25/2017 6:07:34 AM PST by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: anton
But people who spend their last dime on Lotto tickets....

The situations a few of my friends encountered weren't that at all. They could've afforded the ticket, for sure. But for how long and at what expense to their health? The mayor in Houston actually got something right when he brought up the death toll after an evacuation, both during travel and soon after. Then there's the issue of pets, many infirmed who would not survive, even if they could be brought along. Then with Seniors there are health issues many already have. They don't have the resistance to risk getting pneumonia or flu in overcrowded germ-ridden environments.

For many, it was a situation with no good choices. FWIW, the ones who fared best "stayed in place", even though some endured roads being flooded and a loss of electricity for up to a week.

Until you know someone who's been in a situation with no terrific options or you've been in that place yourself, it's tough to appreciate that sometimes there's just no perfect solution to a problem.

52 posted on 11/25/2017 6:19:22 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: grania

Good post. Evacuation fatalities and morbidity are never covered in the news.


53 posted on 11/25/2017 6:23:38 AM PST by binreadin
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To: grania

Ill results come from ill planned travel. Persons on a highway for 20 hours without water or bathroom facilities are gonna have problems. Not to be a curmudgeon, but people make choices and choices have consequences.


54 posted on 11/25/2017 6:23:42 AM PST by anton
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To: 21twelve

“Oh - and take up smoking again so I can buy cigs.”

Better yet get a sturdy rolling machine, 1,000 tubes, and 4-5 pounds of bulk tobacco. Spend a bit of time learning how to make your own. Your cost per pack goes down under $2.00 or so once you amortize the cost of the machine. A good one is about $50.00.

The tobacco stays fresh in the sealed pouches and you can roll good ones as needed. Even if you don’t smoke they’ll be great barter items.

L


55 posted on 11/25/2017 6:32:16 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Candor7

How long will it take for the fish and game to disappear when you and 1000s of others that didn’t keep anything back, take to the woods? 2-3 days/weeks probably and you’ll mostly be fighting each other along the way. Maybe you can buy safe passage or a hunting spot with your gold? Guns are noisy but maybe you’ll trap? Gotta carry those unless you can make them out of sticks and some wire rope you bring. Not much to trap in most of the country. Trapping is hardly instantaneous. That means staying in one spot for a day or three. Gotta cook fresh game and fish. Hopefully you’re good at making a smokeless fire.

If you kill a deer, how are you going to keep the meat from spoiling? Carrying a freezer with you? 50lbs of salt? There will be a whole lot of deer that will get 5% eaten and the rest goes bad because weapons, ammo, gold, chainsaws and boats don’t preserve meat. Squirrels? Takes a few to make a meal. Rabbits, not as plentiful as they used to be and trapping is best for those.

A sailboat, as in waterworld? Goin to Cuba? Take lots of fresh water or a desalination unit for the trip but there might not be any safe place to take to the shore. Might be a lot of modern day pirates too. A horse? Well that won’t make you stand out at all. That’s a lot of food for someone else to kill over. Chainsaw/fuel/oil? You’d be better off with the a fraction of that weight in freeeze dried food and a good water filter.

Better to find your retreat, get it set up and start living there now. By the time you get to your “rural spot”, fighting off 50 other Rambo types along the way, you might find “it’s a club, and you ain’t in it”.

Ever see the amount of weapons at the average farm or rural estate auction?


56 posted on 11/25/2017 6:32:30 AM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: 2banana

Need to revise some of that advice. 6 months at the very least of non perishable food. White Rice keeps better than Brown. They can be stored in gallon jugs or old 2 liter soda bottles. Beans, noodles, long term canned goods, dried fruit/veggies, sugar, coffee, flour, salt. Be sure to keep rotated. AMMO that matches all your guns and don’t stint on the rounds, mix in hollow point with regular practice rounds. Tracer rounds too. Hatchet, hunting knife. Better know the basics of COOKING in or out doors.

Real serious learn to can food you grow, put up heirloom seeds of different varieties. Modern seeds don’t do well reproducing.

Quality trash bags. Mylar bags, sealed drums or tubs, PVC with caps you can burry, rice is a good moisture absorber in a sock. SPARE comfortable clothes/shoes made for walking. Coats, sweaters, blankets, sterno, strike any where matches stored water tight. Kerosene, Gas treated with Stay Bil last 2 yrs, rest might last a yr, if you can find it. Solar Panels, inverter, have to have a way to have light, heat, and PROTECTION.

A Grab and Go Bag with all basics in it, don’t leave home with out your gun, knive, food, water, and shelter. Plan like you are taking a backwoods hiking trip alone or for a pair.

Water purification kit, beefed up Med Kit. Learn basic Med, stock stuff like cold, Tylenol, Ibuprophen, diahrea, puke meds. CLEAN WATER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. Besides food and Protection.

FARADAY BOXES for electronics, they can be simple or complicated as you need them. https://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/build-your-own-faraday-cage-heres-how/

Cars after 1979 are computerized....won’t work if hit by a EMP. Noting run by computer will. Solar recharge batteries to run flashlights, radios. Ham gear. All go in a FARADAY box. Simple bubble wrap, then taped tin foil around an old cell phone or Ham gear will give you a gps but that is all some comm not much depending on other Hams and how they store items.

Learn to farm/husbandry, have a safe house in the boonies in a conservative gun loving state where you can baracade yourself/family in safety, learn how to make booby traps and camofalage your area.

Some of the Prepper sites give a lot of commonsense even in short term need advice.


57 posted on 11/25/2017 6:34:14 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Great list! Bookmarking it. Just a note on Generators... A few years back there was a prediction for a big ice storm coming our way. The first thing that sold out was generators.

The ice never hit us, so everyone who bought generators packed them up again and took them back to the store to get a refund.
The next winter, the stores had big signs NO RETURNS ON GENERATORS!


58 posted on 11/25/2017 6:58:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Postman Pat

Remember back in the 1980s when all the “Survivalist” magazines were suggesting stocking up on sewing needles and .22 cartridges for bargaining with others?


59 posted on 11/25/2017 7:02:08 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: tired&retired

It might get you to another country, if you can get that far.


60 posted on 11/25/2017 7:02:29 AM PST by Savage Beast (Leftists hate TRUTH! TRUTH is the bete noire that haunts their paranoia!)
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