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1 posted on 09/22/2017 9:41:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

2000 years later.

Todays scholars are smarter than the early church fathers.


2 posted on 09/22/2017 9:43:48 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Olog-hai

He doesn’t like that passage and, poof!, surprise, surprise, he denies the cannonicity of it.

I tremble at the thought.


3 posted on 09/22/2017 9:46:01 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Olog-hai

For every social shift man might want to make an “academic” can be found to claim some problem with the Bible. “Academics” must be smarter than the Spirit of God Who said that He would preserve His words.


4 posted on 09/22/2017 9:47:38 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Olog-hai

The whole of scripture is consistent on this issue. The whole teaching is not dependent upon one verse.

Look at the qualifications for elders and deacons for example. They are presumed men. No allowance for wimmins in the role.

And as a wimmin I am fine with that.


7 posted on 09/22/2017 10:07:43 PM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: Olog-hai
Ahem...so the first textual scholar to call attention to this theory just happens to be one that wrote a book in 2009 called "An Exegetical and Theological Study of Paul's Letters" with the following Amazon description:

Does Paul teach a hierarchy of authority of man over woman, or does he teach the full equality of man and woman in the church and home? In Man and Woman, One in Christ, Philip Barton Payne answers this question and more, injecting crucial insights into the discussion of Paul’s view of women. Condensing over three decades of research on this topic, Payne’s rigorous exegetical analysis demonstrates the consistency of Paul’s message on this topic and its coherence with the rest of his theology. Payne’s exegetical examination of the Pauline corpus is thorough, exploring the influences on Paul, his practice as a church leader, and his teachings to various Christian communities. Paul’s theology, instruction, and practice consistently affirm the equal standing of men and women, with profound implications for the church today. Man and Woman, One in Christ is required reading for all who desire to understand the meaning of Paul’s statements regarding women and their relevance for Christian relationships and ministry today. This work has the potential of uniting the church on this contentious issue.

8 posted on 09/22/2017 10:19:29 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Olog-hai

There is absolutely no evidence of female ordination in the Christian Church or in the Jewish religion pre-20th century. There were female deacons but they were not ordained.


11 posted on 09/22/2017 10:35:59 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Olog-hai

Another woman wanting to be ordained?
Numbers 12:14 And the LORD said to Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again.


12 posted on 09/22/2017 10:40:14 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: Olog-hai

Christ had no problem standing up to the religious powers that be, but Christ selected only men to be His apostles. He could have picked equal numbers of men and women to lead His Church, but He did not. Why?


14 posted on 09/23/2017 1:35:45 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.a)
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Next Up:

"Bible passage used to prohibit adultery 'added later', Bill Clinton claims

15 posted on 09/23/2017 2:26:32 AM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: Olog-hai

Scripture is inerrant. It is absolutely immaterial whether Paul wrote this letter or that letter, or this passage or that passage.

If a letter were discoveted that was unquestionably written by Paul, it would not become part of “Scripture.”

Because texts become Scripture BECAUSE OF TRADITION. Without Catholic Tradition and Catholic liturgy, Scripture is impossible.


16 posted on 09/23/2017 3:02:23 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Olog-hai
Go ahead, find me a major denomination or geographical area that had women ordained as regular practice, anywhere in Christendom, until the mid-20th Century.

The ordaining of women was "added later".

Vox Day's 2nd Law: Social Justice Warriors always *project*.

18 posted on 09/23/2017 4:03:36 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Olog-hai

1 Timothy 3


19 posted on 09/23/2017 4:12:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, I believe anything I read in a publication as deeply Christian as The Daily Telegraph! Who could be a better authority on Christian texts? /off sarc

To answer the question, though, I’d trust the Serpent, before the Telegraph. They may be more “conservative” than other British rags, but that’s a very relative proposition.


26 posted on 09/23/2017 6:32:25 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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