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Is Your Dog 'Contraband'?
American Thinker ^ | 8 Aug, 2017 | Mark J. Fitzgibbons

Posted on 08/08/2017 8:05:28 AM PDT by MtnClimber

An awful ruling for pet owners has come from a federal court, in a ruling by U.S. District Court Judge George Caram Steeh. But the threat is not just to Fido and Fluffy, because, as anyone familiar with how precedent becomes corrupted knows, the ruling will be cited and abused far beyond its original, flawed bases.

C.J. Ciaramella writes about this ruling at Reason Magazine, in “Federal Judge Rules Unlicensed Dogs Aren't Protected By Fourth Amendment.” In deciding an unlicensed dog is “contraband” not protected by the Fourth Amendment, the ruling confuses government “licenses” with “title,” i.e., private ownership and possession. The ruling will eventually be cited in cases involving property other than dogs and other unlicensed activity in our overly license-happy statist society.

The crocodile tears shed by the judge for dog owners, however, will be particularly disdained. Quoting the judge’s written opinion Ciaramella writes:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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1 posted on 08/08/2017 8:05:28 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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I would not want to be a .gov worker seizing pets.


2 posted on 08/08/2017 8:06:20 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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So a cop can shoot your dog and as long as it doesn’t have a license it’d okey-dokey and they don’t have to pay you..................


3 posted on 08/08/2017 8:11:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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“I would not want to be a .gov worker seizing pets.”

There will be some stupid .gov people who try it. They will try anything they think they can get away with. This will probably be in some Northeastern or California municipality first.


4 posted on 08/08/2017 8:12:38 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: MtnClimber

What about our barn cats. We cycle through quite a few of those...


5 posted on 08/08/2017 8:13:54 AM PDT by robroys woman
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To: MtnClimber

It’s already in place. Our two indoor cats must get rabies shots/tags. Vets & kennels won’t accept them without it.

Oh, and we get threatening letters from the city, too.


6 posted on 08/08/2017 8:13:55 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: MtnClimber

Hulk says he like his harassing government bureaucrats with Fava Beans. Hold the Chianti. He doesn't drink.
7 posted on 08/08/2017 8:14:43 AM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Red Badger

>>So a cop can shoot your dog and as long as it doesn’t have a license it’d okey-dokey and they don’t have to pay you..................

Yep. And that will spread to everything else you thought you owned. The statists are stepping up their game to Ludicrous Mode.


8 posted on 08/08/2017 8:15:55 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: MtnClimber

My dog is not “my dog”. I’m “his human”. If they want him licensed, they’ll have to talk to him. It’s outside my authority.


9 posted on 08/08/2017 8:16:03 AM PDT by robroys woman
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I’ve got deer that eat my foliage. I have no license for the deer, so I guess they are contraband. Can the government please come and get them?


10 posted on 08/08/2017 8:17:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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>>There will be some stupid .gov people who try it. They will try anything they think they can get away with.

They will shoot some people and all the boot lickers will say, “Well, they should have obeyed.”


11 posted on 08/08/2017 8:17:13 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: dljordan

In Sacramento, “Animal Control” is doing two things:

1. Patrolling and stopping people walking their dogs to check for latest license. They are issuing citations.

Meanwhile, legit “animal control” efforts go wanting...feral dogs and cats...nuisance dogs and cats...diseased animals etc.

2. Reviewing their database of past licensing and sending intimidation notices to pet owners that their failure to renew risks severe fines and potential loss of their pet.

It’s all an extortion racket now, there for the exclusive purpose of keeping dozens of public employees paid.

The criminals should be hung.


12 posted on 08/08/2017 8:20:00 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MtnClimber

Even when I lived in a suburban area where pets were supposed to be licensed, I never licensed mine. It’s a personal freedom thing. I only have to license my car if I drive it on public roads. Same with dogs, except I don’t take them to any publicly funded facility, so the state can pound sand. I don’t license my Mr Fusion either, even though it could kill all my neighbors if I get a shield leak.


13 posted on 08/08/2017 8:23:54 AM PDT by robroys woman
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2. Reviewing their database of past licensing and sending intimidation notices to pet owners that their failure to renew risks severe fines and potential loss of their pet.


this is one of the reasons I never licensed my dogs. I also never walk a dog. I let them run free. ‘Course, it’s pretty easy now, since we live on 32 acres in a rural area. Our dogs don’t know what a collar looks like.


14 posted on 08/08/2017 8:25:56 AM PDT by robroys woman
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To: MtnClimber

Dogs are Haram in Islam.


15 posted on 08/08/2017 8:26:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: elcid1970

In Calgary, for a few years now, they have required cats to be on leashes when outside the house. I have yet to see the ‘property of a cat’ (ie: the supposed cat ‘owner’) lead said cat on a leash. I kind of doubt that anyone has ever been charged.


16 posted on 08/08/2017 8:31:02 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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What you describe sounds like setting up a situation where somebody is going to get shot, on either side of the ticket book. Most encounters won’t lead to violence, but the new class of encounters sets the stage for trouble when there are large numbers of encounters.


17 posted on 08/08/2017 8:31:19 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: dfwgator

I think it is a matter of degrees. Some muhamedans are OK with small, fluffy white dogs (aka: rat dogs or ‘football’ dogs). They don’t like big dogs, nor black dogs. My ‘girl’ is a Shepherd-Lab cross who is mostly black with large, erect ears, and an intent look. If you are not familiar with dogs, she looks intimidating. If you know dogs, her mannerisms suggest a big, friendly, inquisitive mutt, which she is.


18 posted on 08/08/2017 8:38:49 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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Bob_Angee

My contraband protector while I snooze!

19 posted on 08/08/2017 8:39:17 AM PDT by entropy12 (Why Republicans woo & pursue people who will never vote for them (liberals & media) ?)
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Mine: 35 pounds of raw energy.

Bongo Fury


20 posted on 08/08/2017 8:44:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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