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Russian and American troops are within 'hand-grenade range' of each other in Syria [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | March 29, 2017 | Kelly Mclaughlin

Posted on 03/29/2017 6:44:00 AM PDT by C19fan

Russian troops are within 'hand-grenade range' of American forces in parts of Syria, sparking fears of escalated tension in the region.

The two nations are working together with Kurdish YPG fighters in the country to combat ISIS in Syria and neighboring Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: isis; russia; syria
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To: thoughtomator
The Authorization to Use Military Force granted after 9/11 has no time limit or geographical or political restrictions for military action against terrorists or nations deemed by the President to support terrorism. The SCOTUS has ruled such authorizations to be the constitutional equivalent of a Declaration of War.

Right now any President has carte blanche to do anything regarding what is deemed terrorism anywhere at anytime.

21 posted on 03/29/2017 7:00:02 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: pierrem15

‘Tis true. Under that, we could go from coddling terrorists to kicking their rears in nothing flat.


22 posted on 03/29/2017 7:01:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: thoughtomator

ISIS is subject to “Hot Pursuit” SOP now. No safe haven on this earth for them or those who support them hopefully. Next socialist democrat administration will grant them a breather to rest, recover and reinforce. Kill what we can while we can IMO.

But I agree .... never like our troops in low intensity conflicts, been there did that, sucks.... All in or all out, be leaving or be lethal. Hopefully DJT doesn’t half ass this like a festering open wound. Kill these bastards where ever they arr as fast as we can.


23 posted on 03/29/2017 7:01:41 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: pierrem15

That effectively removes the power to declare war from Congress, and is an argument that should be rejected on its face by anyone who respects the plain text of the Constitution - no matter what a corrupted Supreme Court filled with power-mad tyrants may decide.


24 posted on 03/29/2017 7:02:27 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: thoughtomator

So you are saying that Trump is supporting Al-Qaeda

Okay...


25 posted on 03/29/2017 7:02:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

Crusades 2.0. Keep it rolling and spreading.


26 posted on 03/29/2017 7:03:04 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes indeed.


27 posted on 03/29/2017 7:03:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: thoughtomator
Did I miss a Declaration of War passed by Congress?

Where have you been? 1941 was just yesterday. /s

28 posted on 03/29/2017 7:03:13 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Squantos

Why do I feel like I’m talking to people who don’t understand that ISIS was created by the US government in conjunction with the Saudi and Qatar governments?

Does anyone here understand the full significance of what happened at Benghazi?


29 posted on 03/29/2017 7:05:37 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Squantos

Trying to police a place like this into a liberal democracy (even in the old sense of liberal) is a fools’ errand.

I do believe in supporting countries after evil has been vanquished, but in a wise way. A firm kingdom is needed in traditionally Islamic countries, a kingdom which will also accommodate gospel preaching. The former shah of Iran is a better model for this than the attempt to make Iraq into a liberal democracy.


30 posted on 03/29/2017 7:10:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: thoughtomator

The Obama government helped create it.

The Trump government can send it to hades.


31 posted on 03/29/2017 7:10:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: C19fan
The two nations are working together with Kurdish YPG fighters in the country to combat ISIS in Syria and neighboring Iraq.

In other words, we're on the same side finally.

We have said for years that the US switched sides in the "war on terror" under Obama. Now, finally, we are switching back.

It is some really toxic foreign policy that allowed Assad to become the good guy, and us to ally ourselves with Al Qaeda and ISIS. There were probably good reasons to push Assad from power but once you choose Al Qaeda as your allies, you've lost the plot.

32 posted on 03/29/2017 7:10:44 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

Obama thought the Islamic howling was the most beautiful sound in the world.


33 posted on 03/29/2017 7:12:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Travis McGee
One time when I was a kid I said something to the effect that I hated Russians.

Dad, who had met some Russians briefly in 1945, corrected me with an economy of words as always. He explained to me that the Russian people had much in common with us, but unfortunately they lived under an evil political system.

That was in 19somethingorother, mind you, at a time when Dad was keeping the B-52's and KC-135s flying over Vietnam and elsewhere...

Trump notwithstanding, I'm not so sure that the shoe isn't on the other foot in this millennium.

34 posted on 03/29/2017 7:14:54 AM PDT by OKSooner (It's always loaded.)
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To: thoughtomator
Merely responding to your legal argument, not making any comment regarding whether the intervention is good or bad policy.

It seems to me you are dangerously close to saying, "the Constitution means whatever I say it means." The Constitution doesn't specify any exact wording for a Declaration of War, nor any limits on one. And it's hard to argue that an authorization to use force passed by both Houses actually removes power from Congress and gives too much to the Executive in the absence of such restrictions.

What is most likely going to happen is that Syria will be partitioned into a rump Syrian state in the West acting as a Russian satrapy, the Turkish border will be moved a few miles south, and the US will pick up the rest of the country (with the Kurds in the East and a buffer Northeast of the Golan). Basically a new Sykes-Picot arrangement.

Our goal here will be to crush ISIS (Russia doesn't give a rat's patooty about ISIS) and keep the Iranians out. We will be there for decades.

35 posted on 03/29/2017 7:15:10 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Travis McGee; archy

Agree ....my favorite / few I worked with were French Foreign Legion, Australian SAS and ROK Marines during my career..... Also was on same site with Syrians during Desert Shield / Storm but they suck camel d*ck as expected. Cubans on Grenada were as close as I every got to Spetznaz (I think) ....:o)

As you state they love to trade.


36 posted on 03/29/2017 7:15:23 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: C19fan

I hope there is some commo between the positions.

5.56mm


37 posted on 03/29/2017 7:17:27 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: thoughtomator

No I agree with you. I’m about pursuing and eliminating those trying to kill us ... be they terrorists, polidiots, presstitutes ours or theirs. Yes I agree with you, our nation barters with the devil 24/7.

Will not knowingly be a part of foreign nation building. Your views are mine as well. Our polidiots pander to fill they’re own pockets and we are punished for decades.

As to ISIS .... no mercy shown, no quarter given. Kill those that don’t surrender and execute after waterboarding for intel those that do...... Islamakazis must be exterminated.


38 posted on 03/29/2017 7:27:10 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I wrote my Congressman asking if he had voted on a Declaration of War. I have not received a response. If the Supreme Court has declared “The Authorization to Use Military Force” constitutional then the Constitution means nothing. Secular despots are being replaced by religious fanatics. Assad is not a Boy Scout but if our record is any indication, he will be missed. CIA rebels have fought with Pentagon supported rebels. The Turks are fighting the Kurds. We have no business there.


39 posted on 03/29/2017 7:29:35 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: elhombrelibre

Ping


40 posted on 03/29/2017 7:35:28 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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