France Bans Spanking

YouTube ^ | January 4, 2017 | Stefan Molyneux

[Arthur McGowan]

France has joined the ranks of the fifty plus other countries which have banned corporal punishment or the spanking of children. As a longtime advocate of peaceful parenting, Stefan Molyneux responds to this news and the reaction it has received online.

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[Garth Tater]

When you are in a restaurant, and the waiter fails to bring what you ordered, you punch him, right?

Of course not. Ensuring that the waiter does his job properly is not my responsibility. If I don't like the service at a restaurant I simply never return. But even if it was my responsibility I'm sure he'd be fired long before I felt the need to resort to physical punishment. Can't really just walk away from a problem child though, can you?

When your elderly mother gets forgetful, you slap her, right? So your children can see that you treat them with the SAME respect you show to your mother, right?

Now that's just silly. You can't slap any sense into old people. You have to get that knocked into you when you're young or it just won't take hold. And just so you know, all of my children know that I love and respect them immensely. All three are fine upstanding adults and are busy raising their families and doing it as they see fit. I'm sure you would love to have the government tell them how they should raise their children, but frankly, it's none of your or the government's business.

[deadrock]

Of the four kids we have, I only used spanking once for discipline. IOW, three of my kids never needed spanking and one of them just once.

My eldest caused minor harm to our youngest and I instinctively slapped him. He said "you hit me." We were both kind of stunned at the sequence of events.

I quietly hate myself for striking him but he got the message instantaneously about rough housing around a 5 month old.

[Iscool]

If you are spanking your children, you have been too lazy to learn how to be a parent.

Ever raised any kids??? No??? That leaves you totally unqualified to even have an opinion...But since you have one anyway, how is it that a priest goes against the clear advice of God???

[Morgana]

I figured mooselimbs were the reason this ban was in place.

[Iscool]

that’s an ignorant argument...

[.45 Long Colt]

“If you are spanking your children, you have been too lazy to learn how to be a parent. “

LOL

In the South decent people still believe in spanking and we teach basic manners, too. I recently encountered a Yankee who believes spanking is child abuse and that saying basic “yes ma’am” and “yes sir” belittles the child and hurts their self-esteem.

[.45 Long Colt]

Indeed, but I’ll point out the Bible isn’t the chief authority for Roman Catholics.

[oldplayer]

Spanking can be usefully used for more than “attention getting.” In fact, I would say that I had my kids’ attention BEFORE I spanked them.

I used spanking to painfully physically reinforce the lesson I was imparting. I used it rarely, but forcefully. Probably ten times or less on the boy and five times or less on the daughter. Left minor red welts each and every time. Both children are now in their early 30’s, happily married to good spouses of the opposite sex, one is very gainfully employed for a major private university and the other is a career officer in the USAF. They both love their parents and are great kids in every way, and apparently doing a good job of raising their own kids.

Whether spanking did or did not contribute to their success or whether it damaged them, cannot be known at this date.

[bigbob]

they should have their asses kicked for this

[mountn man]

[deadrock]

Sideways.

[wardaddy]

I don’t hate my self for anything

Much less spanking

They’ll all be good men

My wife sure lacked the mettle

Like most women she indulged and coddled then when when. They’d get defiant or crazy she implore me to “do something”

Unless she lost her cool and she’d pull hair or slap

Two Girls Three Boys in that order

My dad who who whipped hard with a Luchese tooled belt would always say it hurt him more than me

I thought the hell you say

Worst whipping I ever got was a Jackson Prep in MS from the famous football coach with a wooden leg Jack Carlisle

One of country’s winningest high school football coaches who I played for as well till aged 16.

http://msfame.com/news-updates/at-82-jack-carlisle-is-still-a-miracle-worker/

I got in trouble with my lifelong best bud who also played ball and we were sent to his office

Well we decided maybe she’d forget she sent us if we just neglected to show up

Next class the prissy office runner came in slip in hand grinning as Carlisle called us both in

He had us reach over a big wooden chair while he pulled down his big frat paddle perfectly perforated for sting and light weight about 30 inches long

My bud went first and took 7 full bat swing swats as he pivoted on that wooden leg

Tears

Next my turn.....8 for me as instigator

For the next week my lower buttocks were purple and yellow like eggplant and raspberry cupids kisses everywhere

Man you’d get a charge for that today

Even my dad was like wow

Makes u tuff

Way I see it I had it coming

[AndyTheBear]

A brand spanking new law?

[proud American in Canada]

Not in favor of spanking, but also definitely not in favor of the government telling people how to raise their own children.

[deadrock]

My father was heinously brutal. His favorite punishment for us boys was ramming his knee into the side of our unsuspecting thigh muscle giving us a 'dead leg.' It was agony.

And he would beat my brother for being left handed. We all hated dinner time because my brother ate with the wrong hand and needed correcting. He usually ate just two meals a day when dad was at work.

In the end, you will have to excuse me for hating myself for striking my son.

[proud American in Canada]

There is a huge difference between abuse and slap or two on the butt to get the kids attention. Especially if they are wearing diapers. ;)

My sister and I were hit with a spatula and I went to school with bruises on my arms. Had to wear long sleeves. I remember hiding under the table in the basement, but my mother dragged me out, to continue beating me up.

It is not easy being a parent. But there’s a difference between trying to correct a child, for his or her good, and taking out your anger on them.

If a little toddler is trying to cross the highway, and you have to slap him or her on the butt so they know you mean business, I don’t think that’s wrong.

As I said, it’s not easy raising children. You just have to pray for guidance.

[proud American in Canada]

You and I will have to sit down and have a coffee sometime. :-)

[proud American in Canada]

When I lost my temper and slapped my child once... I felt so incredibly bad.

As you say, when you undergo abuse as a child, you just can’t forgive yourself.

[Berlin_Freeper]

I pick the toys up, put them away and usually receive a thank you for it.

[bfkirk]

Visited this thread to be entertained by anti-PC comments. Shocked to see Freepers who are in agreement with the French on this. Has this board been taken over by Lindsay Graham types?