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Neanderthal bones show signs of cannibalism
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Posted on 07/07/2016 1:18:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The remains that were found were radiocarbon-dated to be about 40,500 to 45,500 years old, and it was determined that Neanderthals butchered and used the bones of their peers as tools, according to a press release from the Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen. The findings were published in the journal Scientific Reports.

The team identified 99 "uncertain" bone fragments as belonging to Neanderthals, which would make this the greatest trove of Neanderthal remains ever found north of the Alps.

The findings also shed light on the genetics of this lost human species, adding to previously collected data on Neanderthal genes.

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While this is the first evidence of Neanderthal cannibalistic behavior in northern Europe, past researchers have found signs of ancient cannibalism at El Sidrón and Zafarraya in Spain as well as at the French sites Moula-Guercy and Les Pradelles.

The researchers say it appears the human remains were used in the same way as other animals. One thigh bone and three shinbones were used to help shape stone tools used by the Neanderthal community at the site, they said.

The researchers said that the findings open up new windows of understanding into how this ancient species actually lived and interacted.

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(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Science
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To: humblegunner
What happens when you show up late for the canibal's banquet?

You get the cold shoulder.

21 posted on 07/07/2016 2:57:26 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: BenLurkin

Damn that Global Warming, even the poor Neanderthals were hit hard.

I blame Exxon.


22 posted on 07/07/2016 3:10:19 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (EAT THE YOUNG! 100 million guppies can't be wrong.)
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To: BenLurkin

Archaeologists are still puzzled by the carved stone sign found at the site which said, “You want fries with that”?

I’m a former archaeologist. Some of us actually have a sense of humor (while looking at humors and femurs).


23 posted on 07/07/2016 3:48:51 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: BenLurkin

"Ewww...with a gammy leg?"

24 posted on 07/07/2016 3:50:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


25 posted on 07/07/2016 4:37:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: BenLurkin

Tastes like chicken.


26 posted on 07/07/2016 4:39:40 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: BenLurkin

“Uncertain” bone fragments. Sounds like they are working for the Lynch “Justice” dept. Hogwash, a waste of info, journal space and time.


27 posted on 07/07/2016 5:07:35 PM PDT by Fungi (Make America America again.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks fieldmarshaldj.
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
KEYWORDS: neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
28 posted on 07/08/2016 6:40:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: fhayek; humblegunner
What happens when you show up late for the canibal's banquet?

You get the cold shoulder.



29 posted on 07/08/2016 6:45:36 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: Calvin Locke

https://www.amazon.com/Man-Corn-Cannibalism-Prehistoric-Southwest/dp/0874809681

Man Corn: Cannibalism and Violence in the Prehistoric American Southwest

and the video of the PBS documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWbWPgjJ7W0


30 posted on 07/08/2016 6:49:37 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; humblegunner; fhayek; Larry Lucido; Salamander

Well there are two ways to look at this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sljSf7KVlQ

~or~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWWg5shNWR4


31 posted on 07/08/2016 7:52:17 AM PDT by shibumi (Just a Bias-Ply Guy in a Steel Radial World)
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To: shibumi

;’)


32 posted on 07/08/2016 8:37:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Trumpinator; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; humblegunner; fhayek; Larry Lucido; Salamander

Since this evidence came as neaderthals were disappearing from the scene, and knowing that homo sapiens already practiced canibalism—its not a big stretch to figure that
these neanderthals were eaten by humans.

The reason would be pretty simple. The homosapiens would do it for the same reason that humans have more frequently practiced cannibalism from the beginning of time—not for survival — but rather to gain energy/power/mana/juju of the being they had just fought to the death with.

Since the Neanderthals would be such a deadly opponent—its not a big stretch to figure that they were hunted ritually to gain their power.


33 posted on 07/08/2016 12:19:05 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: ckilmer; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; humblegunner; fhayek; Larry Lucido; Salamander
What I don't get from the article is if the consumed were relatives from the same tribe or victims of a raid.

Chimpanzees are known to raid rival tribes and eat the victims - it's a prize but they won't eat their own (I assume).

If the consumed are victims of raids then I kind of wonder if that is one of the origins of burials (evidence the Neanderthal's practiced it). If you bury your dead they can't be eaten by animals or rivals?

Also explains the small % of Neanderthal DNA. It was probably from war boot slaves from homo sapiens sapiens raiding Neanderthals?

34 posted on 07/08/2016 12:24:27 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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To: kaehurowing

no, tastes like frog. frog is the standard for white meat at our house.


35 posted on 07/08/2016 1:00:06 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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To: Texan5

I’ve never been to a Donner party. What’s the dress code?


36 posted on 07/08/2016 5:12:49 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

So, did you have a sense of femur?


37 posted on 07/08/2016 5:14:29 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Re, “So, did you have a sense of femur”?

Well, no but we archaeologists did form a professional fraternity, “I Felta Thigh”.

Hope that tickles your “funny bone”.


38 posted on 07/08/2016 5:35:26 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: lepton

It was probably casual, dressed with sauce...


39 posted on 07/08/2016 5:38:59 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Nice. ;)


40 posted on 07/08/2016 6:55:41 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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