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The GOPe has Screwed the Pooch (Sargon's vain analysis)
self | 3/30/2016 | self

Posted on 03/30/2016 4:47:20 PM PDT by sargon

In my humble opinion, the Republican party has effectively and totally destroyed itself with its relentless character assassination vendetta against its own frontrunner, Donald Trump.

There will be no recovering from this. Here are the only possible scenarios I can see, as we finish the primary season and move into the GOP convention:

Scenario #1: The only scenario that has the potential to expand the GOP demographic base permanently and beat Hillary is for Donald Trump to win the nomination and face Hillary in the general election, either with a clear majority or a near majority of delegates.

Scenario #2: Ted Cruz wins the GOP nomination fair and square, without jumping into bed with the GOPe. In that case, his narrow demographic base probably dooms him, but at least voter enthusiasm is preserved. Unfortunately, this scenario has already been obviated by the fact that the GOPe is demonizing Trump nonstop, infuriating his voters, and Ted Cruz has adopted the Establishment tactics wholeheartedly, which alienates Donald Trump voters who otherwise might be willing to support Ted Cruz.

Scenario #3: Ted Cruz wins the nomination with the help of the GOPe, either by getting a majority of delegates or by leapfrogging the frontrunner at the convention. This scenario still results in a candidate with a vary narrow base who likely can't overcome the demographic realities which accrue to the benefit of the Democrat party. Furthermore, this scenario also results in furious Trump voters who believe in their hearts that the nomination was stolen as a result of the constant character assassination directed at Donald trump.

Scenario #4: The convention is contested and someone other than Trump or Cruz is nominated. In this case, voters from both of the leading candidates are furious with the party, and enough of them stay home for Hillary to win easily.

So that is my analysis.

It looks very much to me like the "Anybody But Trump" movement is beginning to succeed. Unfortunately, that "anybody" is going to be Hillary Clinton, unless she's indicted, in which case any of the above scenarios could still, theoretically at least, result in a GOP victory.

Barring that, however, the only scenarios that could succeed are scenarios number 1 & 2.

And, as I have already noted, scenario #2 has already been destroyed by the GOPe, with Ted Cruz acting in full complicity.

Thus, conservatives' best hope is scenario #1, just like it has been for the last few months. It is the only scenario still possible that preserves voter enthusiasm, expands the GOP tent, and wipes out Hillary in the general election.

Since scenario #1 is itself becoming less likely now, IMHO, and due to the causes I've outlined, this leaves me with the inescapable conclusion that the GOPe has already screwed the pooch. The GOP will not win the White House in 2016 absent Trump at the top of the ticket. It could have won with Cruz possibly, but only in the case where Cruz remained an anti-Establishment candidate, and didn't adopt the Establishment tactics being used against Donald Trump. It's already too late for that, of course.

I'm convinced that the GOP will be content to remain in marginal power by controlling the House and perhaps still the Senate. That will allow them (with Hillary in the White House) to preserve the system as it is, where both parties scratch each other's backs, put up token opposition on various issues, and everybody just keeps enriching themselves at the expense of the People.

For doing what they have done, the GOP deserves to die a painful and lingering death. I, for one, am done with the Party, and will never register as a Republican again: not even to vote in their closed primaries. I'll stick with being a registered independent.

It saddens me very much to write these words, because, only a few short months ago, we had 2 candidates with the potential to lead a desperately-needed Revolution in American politics and culture.

But, alas, I believe it is not to be. The GOPe has overplayed their hand to the point where they have destroyed the party's chances for every possible scenario, except for the one case that appeared like it would happen: Donald Trump winning the nomination.

Now, Donald Trump bears some responsibility for this, as does Ted Cruz, for different reasons.

But the real villain in this tragic sequence of events is the GOPe: Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Lindsay Graham, John McCain, Bob Dole, the National Review, and all of their elitist ilk.

Yes, folks, I'm still hopeful that somehow something positive will come from the criminal and treasonous Establishment proceedings that we all have been watching before our very eyes. But I doubt it.

It looks like the Revolution will have to wait for at least another four years. That's good enough for the Establishment. As long as they can always delay the inevitable, the inevitable becomes impossible.

The hatred that I feel for the GOPe burns within me with a passion that will never die. Indeed, it only waxes stronger with each Machiavellian shenanigan they pull. It will be on full display at the GOP convention as well, of course.

I can't help but feel a profound sense of loss in looking at the state of affairs that we have arrived at.

No matter what happens at the convention, there will be large masses of GOP voters who will feel totally betrayed by the party leadership, and this will carry all the way through to the general election cycle.

All is lost, IMHO, and I say that as a realist, not a pessimist.


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KEYWORDS: 2016election; donaldtrump; gope; tedcruz; vanity
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To: af_vet_1981

Alright then, perhaps others on the thread will benefit.

Btw Newsmax TV has been very good lately for those of us who are burned out on Fox news.


161 posted on 03/31/2016 5:20:10 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fooman
They may as well listen to Jake Tapper. He was on the radio being interviewed. He is very concerned with the Republican delegates' dilemma and that they will lose the Trump voters, but thinks the party bosses wil solve it one way or the other. Oh, and he said his Republican source told him that while the Clinton email investigation is very serious, she will not be indicted because it would be too difficult to win a conviction. However, some of her State Dept. aides will have serious trouble obtaining security clearances in her administration.
162 posted on 03/31/2016 6:28:54 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: fooman
There is small chance, Kasich can pull it together, but very small—like 2%.

After the first ballot, if Trump does not get the 1237, the GOPe bosses will open it up to more candidates, until they get what they consider an acceptable outcome.

TrusTed > JilTed, but that's to be expected, baked in, so to speak.

163 posted on 03/31/2016 6:35:51 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Cruz has said he will not support Trump.

Hasn't Trump said he will not support Cruz? I mean, how can he, since he calls him "Lyin' Ted" every chance he gets.

Can't have it both ways, FRiend.

164 posted on 03/31/2016 6:36:33 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: sargon; sickoflibs; BillyBoy
relentless character assassination vendetta

I know what you mean, "Anchor baby", "Stole Iowa", "Lyin' Ted", I can't stand that crap.

165 posted on 03/31/2016 7:47:18 AM PDT by Impy (Did you know "Hillary" spelled backwards is "Bitch"?)
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To: sargon
If GOPe Cruz succeeds in stopping the Trump he will be rewarded by the GOPe with the VP slot is my best guess.

The hundreds of millions in attack ad appears to be working. Trumps negatives are going up. It is begining to look like a contested convention, where the GOPe can put a Jeb,Romney,Ryan,Kasick at the top with a Ted or Rubio in the VP slot (a bone thrown to tea party types).

Before you cruzers celebrate ted ad vp have a look at this

166 posted on 03/31/2016 7:56:34 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: sargon
The hatred that I feel for the GOPe burns within me with a passion that will never die.

Add Ted Cruz to that list of traitors.

167 posted on 03/31/2016 8:00:38 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: sargon

GOPe aka Uniparty has a top priority, and it is not wining elections.

Their top priority is keeping social, economic and political globalism progressing. They don’t care if they win or lose an election for the GOP as long as a trusted globalist wins...Hitlery.


168 posted on 03/31/2016 8:01:57 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: sargon
Ted Cruz wins the GOP nomination fair and square, without jumping into bed with the GOPe. In that case, his narrow demographic base probably dooms him, but at least voter enthusiasm is preserved.

I don't see how the GOP nominating yet another sure general election loser, with a smile, preserves voter enthusiasm.

Once Trump is out of the picture (later this primary season, after November, in four years or in eight years), I'm out of the GOP. I might still vote for their candidates for office, but he or she would have to be an exceptional candidate and frankly, the GOP doesn't make exceptional candidates. If the democrats win, the liberal agenda advances. If the GOP wins, the liberal agenda advances. Like the smart lady said, "what difference, at this point, does it make?"

169 posted on 03/31/2016 8:05:46 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: DuncanWaring
A “not-NBC” is not eligible to be VP.

We are no longer a constitutional republic. We now live in an oligarchy, just like Mexico.

170 posted on 03/31/2016 8:08:05 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: nathanbedford

Thank you for your comments, I appreciate it.


171 posted on 03/31/2016 8:26:37 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: jpsb

As a matter of practice, “Yes”.


172 posted on 03/31/2016 9:23:37 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Impy
I know what you mean, "Anchor baby", "Stole Iowa", "Lyin' Ted", I can't stand that crap.

The others have had it very light compared to the nonstop, 24/7/365 demonization of Donald Trump.

Get real.

173 posted on 03/31/2016 11:57:20 AM PDT by sargon ("No king but Christ!")
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To: sargon

I would definitely not categorize Trump and Trump supporters’ savage and nonsensical attacks on Cruz as “very light”. We’re gonna have to agree to disagree.


174 posted on 03/31/2016 1:13:55 PM PDT by Impy (Did you know "Hillary" spelled backwards is "Bitch"?)
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To: Impy
I would definitely not categorize Trump and Trump supporters' savage and nonsensical attacks on Cruz as "very light". We’re gonna have to agree to disagree.

Not "very light" in terms of intensity, "very light" in terms of quantity. There's just no comparison to the concerted demonization that is occurring with respect to Donald Trump, from the Left,GOPe,Establishment, and Cruz himself.

With or without Cruz's help, it's an all-out, desperate, slanted bid by the entrenched Establishment interests to subvert the will of conservative voters. It's incredible, it's diabolical, it's shameful and, given modern day networking/media capabilities, unprecedented.

If Ted Cruz ever ends achieves frontrunner status, or becomes the nominee (unlikely, due to shenanigans), he will become the focus of demonization by the Left, Mass Media, and probably even the GOPe, and will face much of the same.

Ted Cruz ain't seen nothin' yet...

175 posted on 03/31/2016 1:29:42 PM PDT by sargon ("No king but Christ!")
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To: wardaddy

Now, if that don’t scare the hell out of you then nothing will.

They’d rather see America commit suicide than go Conservative now. I hope the bastids rot in hell.


176 posted on 03/31/2016 3:30:33 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (OBAMA: Fundamentally Twerking America)
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To: sargon

Well, I’ve been supporting (and continue to support) Trump since July. I was happy to vote for him in February, and I hope to vote for him in November.

But.

I agree that the anti-Trump forces are making progress. And I believe they have found a weakness (ego/pride/combativeness) and that they will continue to exploit it.

If Trump does not arrive with 1237 delegates, he will not be the nominee. Period.

Cruz will, of course not be the nominee under any circumstances. Romney/Bush/Ryan are using him to set the stage for a GOPe nominee.


177 posted on 03/31/2016 3:35:44 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown, are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: sargon

I also think the only hope for the GOP is Trump. We need to welcome in the blue-collar whites who are being taken for granted by the Democrats. If we get them on board, leaving the Dems as the party of racial and sexual minorities, then we win, and the Dems implode.


178 posted on 03/31/2016 3:57:00 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Amen to that. There are millions of them.


179 posted on 03/31/2016 3:58:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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