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What I Will Probably Never Understand About The Undying Affection For Donald Trump
Townhall ^ | March 12, 2016 | John Hawkins

Posted on 03/12/2016 5:07:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It's easy for me to understand why people were so favorably disposed toward Trump at first because initially, I liked him, too. I'd read and liked Trump's books, I found him to be gracious in person and I had friends who went to work for him. I also loved his charisma, his stance on the wall, his refreshing lack of political correctness, his scrappiness and his ability to just shrug off what would be career-ending mistakes for other Republican politicians.

Unfortunately today, Trump looks to be completely unelectable. There are massive numbers of Republicans pledging not to vote for him in the general election; sitting members of congress are saying they won't support him in the general; Mitch McConnell is openly telling Republican senators they can distance themselves from him. Trump's been publicly condemned by the last GOP nominee (Romney); his unfavorability numbers are equaling those of Bill "the face of date rape" Cosby (Cosby, July of last year, 62% unfavorability while Trump's rating is 62% now). He'll be dramatically outspent in a general election and contrary to what he's promised, he's not going to finance his own campaign. He will have to deal with a massive Trump University fraud case during the general election; he's the most gaffe-prone candidate in history and the mainstream media that has been carrying him on its shoulders will turn on him once he's the nominee.

Despite all of this, there are many smart people who think Trump will do wonderfully in an election. Some of them note that Trump has driven record turn-out in the states he's won without noting that record numbers of people turned out to vote against him in the states he lost. Others point out that nobody thought Trump would be doing as well in the primary, but of course, it's a split field. Had this been a one on one race, Ted Cruz would be ahead of Trump in delegates right now. Then there are people who point to the outlier poll here and there that shows Trump winning the general, but he consistently loses to Hillary head-to-head.

Yet, there are many smart people who know something about campaigns that think Trump can win the general election. Not a one of them has ever made a rational, logical case for it, but "they have a feeling." Barring a miracle, the second Trump is the nominee, almost no matter what he does, Hillary wins; we lose the Senate big and bleed House seats; the SCOTUS swings wildly to the left; Obamacare and Obama's executive orders stay, but this doesn't bother people because "Trump changes all the rules"....or something.

Setting that aside, as I have already noted, I can understand people liking Trump early on. I have friends and family members who still like him, which is why I don't criticize anyone for backing Trump, have nothing negative to say about the people endorsing him and won't actively encourage people not to vote for him. I believe intelligent, well-meaning people can have differences of opinion.

However, I genuinely don't understand why so many people think a man who is unpredictable, thin-skinned, mean spirted, vindictive and who often blurts out stupid things is the sort of person who is suited to be President of the United States. The same traits that have made Trump a success on reality TV would make him a horrible POTUS. Even if you ignore the fact that Trump is temperamentally unsuited to be President of the United States, he's also saying creepy, fascistic things that should alarm people.

In the debate before last, the discussion was Donald Trump's policy of "taking out" the families of terrorists. So, let's define the ugly reality of what Trump's glib remarks would look like in the real world. We're talking about sending American soldiers to peaceful areas to shoot women and babies in the head because they're related to someone who committed a terrorist attack. When the moderator noted that a former CIA director had said troops wouldn't obey that order because it was inarguably a war crime, Trump replied, "They won't refuse. They're not gonna refuse me. Believe me." That's a dangerous statement, the sort of statement you'd expect to hear from a fascist or a dictator. It becomes even more troubling when you consider it in concert with Trump's comments about China violently suppressing a pro-democracy demonstration.

When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak... as being spit on by the rest of the world.

I'm of the opinion that it would be dangerous to our republic to allow someone with those kind of openly fascistic leanings to ever have control of the IRS, the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ, our military or nuclear weapons. While we're at it, saying "Islam hates us" may impress people on some Internet comment boards, but that's not an appropriate thing to say for someone who wants to be President. Additionally, when asked about the violence that occurs at his rallies, Trump essentially said he condemns the violence unless it's deserved. Of course, we have no word on whether Trump thinks the female reporter who was assaulted by his campaign manager deserved it because Trump's dishonorable way of dealing with it is just lying and claiming it didn't happen. When you think a man should be allowed to assault a woman as long as he's affiliated with Donald Trump, your moral compass is broken and there's something wrong with your soul.

What I don't get is why there are so many people who insist that every criticism of the world's least stable politician must be off base or worse yet, why they acknowledge that these criticisms are accurate and continue to support him anyway. It's so strange to talk to strong conservative Christian patriots who support Trump DESPITE THE FACT that they agree with most of the criticisms leveled at him. I guarantee you that 95% of Trump's current supporters would have considered it an insult if you told them a year ago that they'd back a celebrity birther for President who'd talk about his penis on stage at a debate, encourage violence at his rallies and mock POWs. Yet, here we are.

I don't understand how so many good Christians can support an adulterer who claims to also be a Christian, but also says he's never had a reason to ask God for forgiveness.

I don't understand how so many rock-ribbed conservatives can support an obvious flimflam man whose positions seem to change almost day-by-day and will undeniably change even more if he's nominated.

I don't understand how so many parents can support a man who's a horrible example for their children. Yes, Trump's had a great business career, but his character is at the bottom of the barrel. He's crude and arrogant and he treats other people like garbage.

I don't understand how so many people who say they only care about illegal immigration can support a guy who was pushing amnesty three years ago and is in favor of citizenship for illegal aliens now when a stronger candidate on illegal immigration, Ted Cruz, is in the race.

I don't understand how so many people who care about the Constitution can support a man who's probably never even read it and wouldn't care about anything in it if he did.

I don't understand how so many fundamentally decent people who were furious at Bill Clinton for degrading the presidency can back a man who mocks the disabled, lies as often as both of the Clintons put together, brags about sleeping with married women and who said, "it really doesn't matter what they write as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ass."

I don't understand how so many smart people can back a guy who's too lazy to study anything beyond the basics of any policy issue. Donald Trump doesn't seem to know any more about the policies of the country he'd be running today than he did the day he got into the race. Trump knows the results of every poll in America that are favorable to him; so why can't he take the time to learn something about the government policies of the nation he wants to lead?

Most of all, I don't understand how so many good people can support a hateful, fundamentally dishonest, divisive man who's turned friends and allies in the conservative movement against each other and who has shown over and over that he doesn't care about anything but himself.

If all these people were phony, insincere, dumb or corrupt, that would be an easy explanation, but I know that doesn't describe the vast majority of people who back Trump. Most of them are intelligent, well-meaning people. If the only choice were between Trump and some horrible establishment candidate no one wanted, I might understand at least a little bit, but it's not. If Donald Trump were a close relative or had saved your baby from being eaten by alligators, I could understand the blind loyalty that forgives him for anything, but that's not what's happening.

The good news for people who support Trump and the bad news for those of us who find him to be a repulsive, narcissistic con man is that by staying in the race this long, John Kasich and Marco Rubio have nearly guaranteed Trump the nomination. If Trump does lock it down, my guess is that it will start off with cheers and joyful proclamations that the hated establishment has been defeated and it will likely end with cries of "betrayal," years of grudges and a lopsided defeat while Trump happily pitches his latest products from Mexico and China to the fans he picked up during his run at the presidency. The one thing we may never truly understand is why so many good and decent people were blindly loyal to someone like Trump when they had every opportunity to see what kind of man he really was beforehand.


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To: JPJones

:)


121 posted on 03/12/2016 6:07:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mac n Jac

All you can do is repeat your tireless parrotry without an ounce of proof.

The real red necks will stand behind Trump and There Will Be A Wall.

Traitors like you will cast shadows.


122 posted on 03/12/2016 6:07:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MNJohnnie

““Conservative” politicians talk a good game and then go to DC and accomplish nothing.”

Exactly. What did Cruz accomplish in the Senate so far?


123 posted on 03/12/2016 6:07:37 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: GilGil
You are right.

It almost seems like Trump is a man, while Cruz, Kasich, and Rubio are all whiny, weaselly little boys, without an ounce of courage between them.

124 posted on 03/12/2016 6:07:51 PM PST by Heart-Rest ( "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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To: kingu

Where can I get that .3 micron font you used for the /s?


125 posted on 03/12/2016 6:21:13 PM PST by Company Man (Trump towers.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Trump supporters keep saying that. But it’s absolutely NOT true.

https://www.tedcruz.org/cruz-immigration-plan/

Please, I implore you to at least glance through Ted’s plan. It’s a good one.


126 posted on 03/12/2016 6:22:18 PM PST by Theo (Trump = French Revolution. Cruz = American Revolution. Choose wisely.)
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To: DuncanWaring
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127 posted on 03/12/2016 6:23:20 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amen. I don’t understand it either. The man lies with reckless abandon, and people STILL believe him.

When he first entered the race, he said the right things about what should be done with the border which was appealing, but he’s already waffling on that one with his wanting to expand the Visa program.

And even if he does everything he says about securing the border, the man is very liberal, and it’s hard to understand why any true conservative can overlook all of that. He doesn’t seem very knowledgeable about foreign affairs, and he sounds like Hillary when he talks about health care. Just pitiful.


128 posted on 03/12/2016 6:24:30 PM PST by Vanbasten
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To: sargon

Mostly the first one.


129 posted on 03/12/2016 6:30:12 PM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: DuncanWaring

If we lose the Constitution, the border doesn’t matter.


130 posted on 03/12/2016 6:35:44 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: wintertime

Nonsense and factually wrong. You have partaken of the kool-aid.


131 posted on 03/12/2016 6:37:01 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe I can explain it to you, Trump appears to genuinely love America; the rest not so much.


132 posted on 03/12/2016 6:37:43 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Maybe then show some rectitude for their egregious actions..


133 posted on 03/12/2016 6:42:47 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Heart-Rest

The courage Trump is exhibiting during these rallies is REAL. No other candidate Republican or dem has that. Not even close. The entire congress does not have it either.

And then there is Trump. I noticed at one pint that there were 40,000 people watching on Youtube the Kansas rally.

I can tell you what everyone was thinking. One thing you can say about Trump and that is he has the courage of a titan. You can bet everyone is concluding that. Courage sells and it sells big. Compare that to Cruz, Rubio and Kasich who were basically saying to surrender to the thugs. People respond to the guy with the courage. Do you want the guy with the courage or the wannabes who want to surrender to the thugs? I can guess what 99% want.

Trump is what a man is supposed to be not the wannabes we have today.


134 posted on 03/12/2016 6:48:44 PM PST by GilGil
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To: John Valentine
Then refute that my statements. Show how these statements are wrong.

Just because someone ( even Jefferson) says its OK to have compulsory indoctrination and compulsory funding of a government's NON-neutral religious, cultural, and political worldview does NOT make it Ok.

135 posted on 03/12/2016 7:05:00 PM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: John Valentine
Sorry! I thought you were replying to a comment I made on an education thread.

So?.....Do you really really really believe that our Founders would have found Cruz eligible given his background?

If Cruz can become president because his mom was American then so can any foreign born child, grandchild, great grandchild of any anchor baby born today in the U.S. In less than a century half the world's population could be eligible to run for president.

I doubt that our Founders had **that** in mind!

136 posted on 03/12/2016 7:09:34 PM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: John Valentine
If this is “Kool Aid” pass me the pitcher.
137 posted on 03/12/2016 7:10:48 PM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: John Valentine
I will give those Anti-Article 2, Section 1, people credit.

They have won! They have nibbled this part of the Constitution to death. It is now utterly meaningless.

138 posted on 03/12/2016 7:12:22 PM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When Townhall started out it was conservative.....and it had some of the best writing I've seen in blogs. I recommended the site and specific articles to family, friends and fellow freepers.....I don't know how many times.

Now it looks like the folks there have gone over to the dark side...and I no longer recommend anyone wasting their time reading their articles and giving them advertising clicks.

Leni

139 posted on 03/12/2016 7:19:36 PM PST by MinuteGal (GO, TRUMP, GO !!!)
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To: BillyBoy

There is a two sided propoganda war against Trump. Believe what you will.


140 posted on 03/12/2016 7:19:41 PM PST by pfflier
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