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What I Will Probably Never Understand About The Undying Affection For Donald Trump
Townhall ^ | March 12, 2016 | John Hawkins

Posted on 03/12/2016 5:07:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 03/12/2016 5:07:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Easy.

He’s the only one who even mentions sealing the stinkin’ border.


2 posted on 03/12/2016 5:08:24 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There are massive numbers of Republicans pledging not to vote for him in the general election

A phenomenon we see on FR threads every election. "I will not vote for someone that is not pure enough for me".

3 posted on 03/12/2016 5:09:37 PM PST by pfflier
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because like most of the “conservative media” the author is dogmatic who cannot be bother to think about anything that challenges his indoctrinated “Conservative” dogmas. So instead of trying to LEARN, he merely filters everything thru the dogma.


4 posted on 03/12/2016 5:09:50 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody wanted Reagan but We The People

Nobody wants Trump either but We The People.


5 posted on 03/12/2016 5:10:12 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: DuncanWaring

“Trump looks to be completely unelectable. “

Doesn’t look like that to me at all.


6 posted on 03/12/2016 5:10:17 PM PST by JPJones
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To: DuncanWaring

It wasn’t anywhere near the table (much less on it) until Trump came along.


7 posted on 03/12/2016 5:10:27 PM PST by BlackAdderess (Brexit, Grexit... USexit???)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A country with a porous border is not a country.


8 posted on 03/12/2016 5:10:57 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New FAU Florida poll: Florida Atlantic University GOP Primary Poll
March 8-11
Trump: 44% (+23)
Rubio: 21%
Cruz: 21%
Kasich: 9%


9 posted on 03/12/2016 5:11:04 PM PST by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diwapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

people select candidates they like not based on whether they’re electable or not, but whether they think x candidate is the best candidate to represent them. Politicos never understand this while the obsessed over polls compiled by the enemy


10 posted on 03/12/2016 5:11:04 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: pfflier

I’d vote for Trump _if_ he were the nominee. He hasn’t won it yet.


11 posted on 03/12/2016 5:11:27 PM PST by glorgau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Partisan pro-Cruz guy from “Townhall.com”.

Just saying.

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/01/30/why-im-endorsing-ted-cruz-for-president-n2112239


12 posted on 03/12/2016 5:11:31 PM PST by cba123
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To: JPJones

Let’s talk Wed morning.


13 posted on 03/12/2016 5:11:32 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: DuncanWaring
Townhall is a Salem media-owned website. Just like Hot Air, they are completely in the tank for the GOPe.

I deleted all my bookmarks from Salem websites, and no longer purchase books from their writers.

14 posted on 03/12/2016 5:11:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Yuge 2016)
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Unfortunately today, Trump looks to be completely unelectable
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Only if you are watching through Cheap Labor Express glasses.

More people who haven’t voted in years or ever are registering and voting.

The citizens are sick of the illegal alien inundation.

They finally have someone who says he’ll stop it.

LANDSLIDE!


15 posted on 03/12/2016 5:13:14 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a good example of the divide in the GOP voters. An excellent example of the argument between Dogmatism and Realism. It not “low information” or “anger” that drives the Trump people. It is Realism.

The 2016 GOP Primary has brought to the front an old divide in Conservatism. There currently is a war being waged between the Dogmatics and the Realists. The Dogmatist care nothing about political realities, only the purity of the candidate political dogma matters to them. The Realist understands you have to be able to advance the political ball down the field to achieve the goals of the dogma. The Realist understands some times a flawed tool is going work better then the flawlessly poltical pure tool.

Reagan, who was a realist, wrote about it.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

Th Dogmatic at NR, Town Hall, Red State and the rest of the “Conservative” media sneer at the realist as being “nihlistic towards DC and the GOP”.

It is not Nihilism, it Realism. Since 1988 Conservatives have faithfully pledges their treasure and time to the GOP. Despite elections successes in 1988, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2010 and 2014 what have Conservative gotten from the GOP?

Prosperity? Nope worse economy since 1979.

Reduction in Government-nope as expense, corrupt, incompetent, intrusive and bigger then ever

Supreme Court? Nope as far left as it has ever been.

A Nation secure? Nope at risk in a dangerous world. Military broken, exhausted and overextended.

A respect for rule of law and the Constitution? Nope. Goveremnt, and society, is more lawless then it has ever been.

A healthy growing vibrant society? Nope stagnant or in decline everywhere in every way.

So, it not Nihilism, it Realism. It is a realistic assessment that doing the same thing again this year electorally is going to continue this decline and degradation from DC.You can only overcome inertia in any system with force. So we need to force DC out of it denigrate path onto a new path. So why Trump rather then Cruz?

I know this falls on deaf ears with 100%ers at NR, Red State and other “Conservative” media but the fact remains, we are a Constitutional Republic that rests on the notion that the people’s Representatives in Government know how to compromise and negotiate.

This feeling that Cruz will ride into DC and dictate the Conservative Media’s 100%er terms to everyone else there is simply wishful thinking. What is more probably is Cruz would be a GOP Carter.

Carter was the same sort of religious political puritan who went to DC and assumed he would dictate his political dogmas to everyone there. The record shows how badly that idea failed.

“Conservative” politicians talk a good game and then go to DC and accomplish nothing. After 30 years of fail, it is time to try another solution. The winning candidate is, brace yourseelf.... going to have to cut DEALS! And some times those deals require..compromise!!!

Another fail point for the “Principled Conservatives” is they think only as far as the election. Then once they win their purity candidates go to DC and fail against the inertia of the DC/Media political machine. 1988-1994-1998-2000-2002-2004-2010-2014 are all example of where this “Next election” mindset has failed.

Trump is merely the 1st wave of a multi wave assault. Cruz might do for a follow up wave, he is not a 1st wave candidate. Without Trump to lead the way, the Cruz boat would of either been ignored because it was irrelevant, or been shelled into oblivion by the $10s of millions of GOPE attack ads.

The 1st wave job in any assault is to shatter the defenses and open the road for the follow up waves. No matter how flawed you think the vessel is, Trump is the best 1st wave political assault team we have had to hand in my lifetime.

We need to use Trump for all he is worth to shatter the corrupt, “my party right or wrong” mindset that grips vast swaths of the electorate. Break that inertia, get the people thinking outside the party label box and real change is possible. Do not an we slide into a stagnate European style decline that will not end in my lifetime. Cruz shares that agenda point but is not as well equipped by background and media following to achieve that break through as Trump

We either win this now or we have little chance of ever doing it again politically. Once we win we must relentlessly stay on the attack election wave after election wave until we are dead.

I am really not willing to leave this fight to my kids and grand-kids. We have let the ship of state drift since Reagan in the hands of the “smart people”. We failed and must redeem that failure.

This is our generation’s “go” time


16 posted on 03/12/2016 5:13:23 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He gets as good as he gets.

Trump fights back; he doesn’t fold like a cheap suit.

You think the rest of the field could stand up to a few crazed leftist thugs?

I don’t think so.

Tump is getting huge crowds that are enthusiastic and motivated.

You don’t see that from other candidates.

Trump consistently gets the most votes. No wonder the elites hate him.

You can’t bottle lightning and you can’t bottle Trump.


17 posted on 03/12/2016 5:13:45 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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You can have a welfare state, or open borders, not both - Milton Friedman.


18 posted on 03/12/2016 5:13:48 PM PST by proust (Texans for Trump! The Art Of The Comeback!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Trump is not unelectable, then he wouldn’t be beating the other candidates in the primary. Argument is illogical

If you’re not good enough to beat the semi finalist team, you’re not good enoough to go into the finals


19 posted on 03/12/2016 5:13:48 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gosh someone who doesn’t understand

More whining from folks who can’t control the man who is running


20 posted on 03/12/2016 5:14:07 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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