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This just came over my Facebook feed. I haven't vetted it at all besides a cursory google search.

I did find it interesting enough to repost here for discussion.

1 posted on 11/20/2015 3:13:54 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Domandred

I am the adoptive mother of four and in the states my children were from bio Dad had to sign off.

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That said, my personal opinion is that fathers should have no rights unless married to mom. Otherwise, leave it zipped.


2 posted on 11/20/2015 3:22:47 PM PST by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: Domandred

If true, this absolutely sucks.
I wonder how much money was involved ?


6 posted on 11/20/2015 3:29:05 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: Domandred

Shouldn’t the dad get first rights to full custody of their own child before strangers?


7 posted on 11/20/2015 3:32:06 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Domandred
A brief summary of the law is that a biological father, even listed as the father on the child’s birth certificate, does not have to sign and consent for his child to be adopted out. The mother can sign the child over, completely against the fathers will.

 

 

What Utah Laws says....

 

AT A GLANCE

The four requirements in Utah adoption law

  Utah’s law has four steps that unwed biological fathers must follow before a birth mother consents to an adoption in order to intervene:

File a paternity petition in court.

File a sworn affidavit in court stating he is able and willing to have full custody of the child, detailing child care plans and agreeing to a court order of support and payment of pregnancy and birth-related expenses.

File a notice of commencement of a paternity action with the state vital statistics registrar.

Show, unless he was unaware of the pregnancy until birth, proof he offered to pay or paid pregnancy and birth-related expenses.

8 posted on 11/20/2015 3:32:13 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Domandred

If you do some research I think you’ll find that this is a racket run in the State of Utah, backed by law and facilitated by certain elements within a religious sect.

Last I read, somebody was making a big tado about it and a lawsuit was emerging, but I never followed up.


9 posted on 11/20/2015 3:32:36 PM PST by Fhios
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To: Domandred

why whine on Facebook. Get a lawyer asap.


13 posted on 11/20/2015 3:36:35 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Domandred

If the mother wants to kill the baby during the first 9 months of life, she doesn’t need the father’s consent. It’s a mixed-up world.


16 posted on 11/20/2015 3:39:00 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Domandred

If this kid is so exceptional, why didn’t he marry the baby’s mother?


17 posted on 11/20/2015 3:42:13 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Domandred

This law was probably passed to stop men from having to consent because the Mormon religion got into trouble a couple of years ago with their adoption practices..

A man was in the military and away overseas...his wife stayed in back in the states...she was pregnant but didn’t want the baby...

she didn’t tell her husband she was pregnant but went to the Mormons to give her child up when he or she was born...the Mormons told her not to tell him..

When the baby was born and adopted out to a “good” Mormon family the man came back and a friend told him that he was a father...he tried to get his child since he had not sign away his parental rights...he had to sue for his child but I think he finally did get him or her...but it was a long fight..

however the whole evil doings of the Mormon adoption services were exposed and they didn’t like it..now this law...


19 posted on 11/20/2015 3:42:56 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Domandred

This one isn’t passing the smell test.


20 posted on 11/20/2015 3:42:57 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Domandred

Not true. Here is summary of the Utah adoption laws regarding when consent of the biological father is not required. Otherwise consent is required.

The consent of an unmarried biological father is not required if:

The court determines that the unmarried biological father’s rights should be terminated, based on the petition of any interested party.
A declaration of paternity declaring the unmarried biological father to be the father of the child is rescinded.
The unmarried biological father fails to comply to requirements to initiate proceedings to establish his paternity of the child.

A biological father is not entitled to notice of an adoption proceeding, nor is the consent of a biological father required in connection with an adoption proceeding, in cases where it is shown that the child who is the subject of the proceeding was conceived as a result of conduct which would constitute any sexual offense, regardless of whether the biological father is formally charged with or convicted of a criminal offense.

From http://laws.adoption.com/statutes/utah-laws,3.html


36 posted on 11/20/2015 4:06:24 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Domandred

Anyone who would let themselves be given or take someone’s child against that parent’s wishes, is not fit to be a parent.


43 posted on 11/20/2015 4:13:59 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Domandred
First, they both screwed up. There's no sense in getting married sometimes if she caves in to her parents and probably other issues, might result in another baby and then a divorce. In this case, if I were a male, I would not want to marry a woman whose parents pressured her to give away my child.

If the mom signs the baby away, the man, if fit, should have a right to the baby. It's totally wrong that men have no rights whether married or not.

Maybe adoption makes more sense to some people, but the father should have equal rights whether married or not. I hate to see decent, loving men screwed over.

And FReepers most don't know me now, but I have railed against men, too.

51 posted on 11/20/2015 4:39:34 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Domandred

If this is true, he needs to go to this site and ask for advice from Ohiogal, I’m pretty sure that he has Constitutional rights to his child. Especially if they state has had no reason to remove the child from the home.


60 posted on 11/20/2015 5:09:31 PM PST by tiki ( r)
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To: Domandred

I do know that about 40 years ago a guy’s girlfriend got pregnant and went to Utah and gave up the child for adoption. He did everything he could but to no avail and still to this day doesn’t know what happened to the child.


62 posted on 11/20/2015 5:14:14 PM PST by tiki ( r)
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To: Domandred

Another judicial disgrace brought to you by The Mormon Church!


64 posted on 11/20/2015 6:44:17 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Domandred

I’d like to hear the other side of the story.


71 posted on 11/21/2015 9:28:45 AM PST by stellaluna
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