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We've been had by Trump and most of the rest...
23 July 2015 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 07/23/2015 4:45:30 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Trump is saying some things that simply have to have been said. He's telling the truth. However, the longer this goes on, one begins to wonder what the real motive is? A lot of this stuff should have been said a long time ago by other conservative politicians and none would do so. So, why now...and by THIS guy with no real record of being a conservative?

It is beginning to look like he is trying to divide the conservative electorate. The Democrats are all united behind evil causes and they stick together like glue. We could be under invasion by the Chinese and the leftist, Godless liberals will still be clinging to their illegal immigrants, anti-gun rants, burn-the-Bible as well as the flag rallies and gay lovers. They prefer to go down in flames without making any change in thinking.

However, the conservatives all begin to fight with each other about which candidate is really genuine and really standing for what is right when almost none have a real record of doing so except for Ted Cruz. With all of this hoopla about Donald Trump with the media complicit in shoving Cruz out of the spotlight to highlight this guy and how much he is stirring everyone up, Cruz gets little or no coverage on his excellent arguments about turning the country around. And, THAT, to me, appears to be the actual goal of Donald Trump. It is beginning to look like the powers behind the scenes knew Cruz was going to be a problem and might actually thwart their evil plans and so needed something, ANYTHING, that would take the attention away from him.


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To: Jim Noble
He's quite popular among Democrats where I live.

That maybe true, but popularity doesn't always mean voting for him...

Democrats typically vote against their best interests because the family has voted democrat since FDR...

Plus, I'm sure by the time we vote for POTUS the democrat would have found a way to turn Trump into the second coming of Jordan Belfort (Wolf of Wall Street)

81 posted on 07/23/2015 5:37:20 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: IMR 4350

How can people say that Trump is so stupid and that he’s being had by the Hildabeast... then decide that he’s come up with this genius master scheme... all in the same thread?

Which is it? Is he a stupid dupe or a master manipulator?


82 posted on 07/23/2015 5:37:21 AM PDT by Marie
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To: chicagolady
Cruz and Trump are working TOGETHER!

I agree. A year ago Cruz was the crazy bomb thrower. After Trumps escapades Cruz looks like the statesman he is.

83 posted on 07/23/2015 5:39:40 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: InterceptPoint

:: I simply can’t imagine a successful real estate developer, casino operator and media star actually functioning as The President of the United States ::

Nor could Geo-III envision a (presumed) simple, yet titled, tobacco farmer from the American colony of Virginia - functioning as a military general and subsequently the executive leader of a few upstart locations within the VAST British empire.

Ummmm, yes I am equating the “Trump phenomena” with our first president on the basis that he (Trump) has pledged his personal fortune and honor in the furtherance of the USA.

Your thoughts?


84 posted on 07/23/2015 5:40:20 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Why do you prefer Trump to Cruz?

I don't. I prefer Cruz. I also understand that, short of an Article V Convention, nothing within established parameters is going to get our Country back.

Cruz is a great legal mind, but that quality is not appreciated by enough ordinary Americans to provide a decisive edge.

85 posted on 07/23/2015 5:41:07 AM PDT by papertyger (If the government doesn't obey the Constitution, what is treason?)
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To: InterceptPoint
And look at the RCP polling in my post above and you will see that Cruz was on the upswing as recently as early July...

Wake up. Trump dwarfed EVERYBODY in no time flat. Compared to that performance, a statistical blip isn't even a bad joke!

86 posted on 07/23/2015 5:44:50 AM PDT by papertyger (If the government doesn't obey the Constitution, what is treason?)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I agree with you—done with the GOP losers. Trump will ditch the mountain of ridiculous regulations (designed by narcissistic nut jobs who just want their way) that kill our lives. If he is elected, our economy will soar, taxes will plummet, our country will be safer. And...the dems will be relegated to chirping in the background, at least for a while. Some may not like Trump personally but I’m hearing the liberal millennials in my family praise him because “he’s speaking plain truth” meaning his message has resonated.

I like Cruz a lot but he’s not really “run” anything yet. He’d be overwhelmed and squished by the entrenched bureaucrats (Trump would just say “you’re fired”). But I think he’d be a great VP and then a great president, in that order.


87 posted on 07/23/2015 5:45:29 AM PDT by TrueFact
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To: papertyger
Even the guy I favor, that being Ted Cruz, has not refused to play the game by the established rules the way Trump has. And those rule were keeping him at the margins.

Now that's interesting comment....but not sure I agree totally. I do agree Cruz is at the margins at the moment. However, Cruz steadfastly did not play by the "rules" with his filibuster, nor when he vocally supported Rand's filibuster. He constantly talks about the "Washington Cartel" - who makes these "rules" up.

So, to your point...no, he is not trying to out-Trump Trump at this point. That would be foolish to try. No one can out Trump Trump. But I think Cruz knows that this is not a sprint.....and as the Trump fervor dies down (which it will for one of three main reasons) - Cruz will be in the perfect position. Now, having said all that, I would like a little bit of a break out mentality now myself.

88 posted on 07/23/2015 5:47:13 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Give your trolling a Rest.

Its over the top BS.

Dem Operative i


89 posted on 07/23/2015 5:47:30 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Maybe I did....but I still think it’s accurate description. And the comment still works without the ultra anyway.


90 posted on 07/23/2015 5:49:08 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: VanDeKoik

Sorry but I don’t go to Alex Jones unless it’s linked on Drudge.

Let me guess, you still believe Ross Perot actually wanted to be President.


91 posted on 07/23/2015 5:56:50 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Marie

“How can people say that Trump is so stupid and that he’s being had by the Hildabeast... then decide that he’s come up with this genius master scheme... all in the same thread?’

Learn how to read.

I never said Trump came up with it.


92 posted on 07/23/2015 5:58:03 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: InterceptPoint

Trump and Cruz have to work together at the debate. Cruz not attacking Trump, (he will be the only one on that stage that hasn’t) will be the only able to to credible to do so.


93 posted on 07/23/2015 6:01:47 AM PDT by reviled downesdad (Mother Teresa on abortion: "It's poverty that children must die so people can live as they choose")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Reagan analogy vs Trump

Yes, if you keep it in context. I am talking about poll numbers at this stage of the campaign and the meaningless campaign issues use to attack the candidate. That's the context, stay within it.

94 posted on 07/23/2015 6:05:20 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Bedtime for Bonzo, grade B actor, divorced, former union leader - everyone totally ignored the fact that he was a two term very successful California governor.

I have been praying that God somehow remove the evil from this land, bring this country back to God. I’m sure hundreds of thousands of people have been praying the same.

Now, here is Donald Trump. Who knows but I’m not going to discount him and have been enjoying what I see. God sent a coward and a murderer to lead the Isrealites out of Eygpt. Perhaps we are too far gone and perhaps Trump is not at all what he seems but it’s worth watching and hoping.

On my first cup of coffee I see no hope for this country without Divine intervention.


95 posted on 07/23/2015 6:10:13 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
However, Cruz steadfastly did not play by the "rules" with his filibuster, nor when he vocally supported Rand's filibuster. He constantly talks about the "Washington Cartel" - who makes these "rules" up.

Yours is a fair point insofar as I've outlined very little "nuance" to my statements.

In point of fact, Cruz's efforts have lacked the "magnitude" to defeat the PTB's ability to compensate for random anomalies.

I do not fault Senator Cruz for that failure, but I do recognize it.

Trump has shown the ability to defeat the Cartel using its own best defense.

Does that make Trump fit to be President? Doubtful. But anyone who can not do so will never get the chance to try.

96 posted on 07/23/2015 6:10:15 AM PDT by papertyger (If the government doesn't obey the Constitution, what is treason?)
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To: Alberta's Child
The biggest thing wrong with the picture is that the guy doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning, but will run this bizarre (and entertaining) campaign anyway.

That assessment is based on what exactly? Yes, it is an entertaining campaign, I give you that.
97 posted on 07/23/2015 6:15:17 AM PDT by tenger (Obama will do what he wants because who's gonna stop him?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“It is beginning to look like he is trying to divide the conservative electorate. “

Divide the conservative electorate?? Really? For crying out loud, the RINO’s did that a looooooooong time ago!

Why do you think the conservative base stayed home when it came time to vote for McCain and Romney? It’s because of the RINO shift from conservatism to the Uniparty.

No one represents conservartive interests anymore, Trump does. He’s not dividing, he’s uniting. With any luck he’ll win and run off the nasty RINO’s with a very welcome “YOUR FIRED!”.


98 posted on 07/23/2015 6:17:21 AM PDT by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: Popman
Democrats typically vote against their best interests because the family has voted democrat since FDR...
Vote against their best interests? 13% of the U.S. population has been voting for a monthly check for 50 years. Abortions occur at about a million times a year. Borders are open to whoever wants to traipse through and homosexual marriage is now law.

Please explain to me how every Democrat demographic since 1964 has been "voting against their best interests"?

99 posted on 07/23/2015 6:22:26 AM PDT by HannibalThaddeusBeauregardIV
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To: redfreedom

If Trump is at 24% WITHOUT spending a penny on advertising ,where will he be when he does?!

Trump is letting the MSM do his advertising free which is how it should be for all candidates.That is, they report on what he says-although they do try to twist his words.


100 posted on 07/23/2015 6:29:23 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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