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The corrugated galaxy: Milky Way may be much larger than previously estimated
Phys.Org ^ | Mar 11, 2015 | Provided by Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

Posted on 03/13/2015 7:50:24 AM PDT by Red Badger

The Milky Way galaxy is at least 50 percent larger than is commonly estimated, according to new findings that reveal that the galactic disk is contoured into several concentric ripples. The research, conducted by an international team led by Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Professor Heidi Jo Newberg, revisits astronomical data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey which, in 2002, established the presence of a bulging ring of stars beyond the known plane of the Milky Way.

"In essence, what we found is that the disk of the Milky Way isn't just a disk of stars in a flat plane—it's corrugated," said Heidi Newberg, professor of physics, applied physics, and astronomy in the Rensselaer School of Science. "As it radiates outward from the sun, we see at least four ripples in the disk of the Milky Way. While we can only look at part of the galaxy with this data, we assume that this pattern is going to be found throughout the disk."

Importantly, the findings show that the features previously identified as rings are actually part of the galactic disk, extending the known width of the Milky Way from 100,000 light years across to 150,000 light years, said Yan Xu, a scientist at the National Astronomical Observatories of China (which is part of the Chinese Academy of Science in Beijing), former visiting scientist at Rensselaer, and lead author of the paper.

"Going into the research, astronomers had observed that the number of Milky Way stars diminishes rapidly about 50,000 light years from the center of the galaxy, and then a ring of stars appears at about 60,000 light years from the center," said Xu. "What we see now is that this apparent ring is actually a ripple in the disk. And it may well be that there are more ripples further out which we have not yet seen."

The research, funded in part by the National Science Foundation and titled "Rings and Radial Waves in the Disk of the Milky Way," was published today in the Astrophysical Journal. Newberg, Xu, and their collaborators used data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS) to show an oscillating asymmetry in the main sequence star counts on either side of the galactic plane, starting from the sun and looking outward from the galactic center. In other words, when we look outward from the sun, the mid-plane of the disk is perturbed up, then down, then up, and then down again.

"Extending our knowledge of our galaxy's structure is fundamentally important," said Glen Langston, NSF program manager. "The NSF is proud to support their effort to map the shape of our galaxy beyond previously unknown limits."

The new research builds upon a 2002 finding in which Newberg established the existence of the "Monoceros Ring," an "over-density" of stars at the outer edges of the galaxy that bulges above the galactic plane. At the time, Newberg noticed evidence of another over-density of stars, between the Monoceros Ring and the sun, but was unable to investigate further. With more data available from the SDSS, researchers recently returned to the mystery.

"I wanted to figure out what that other over-density was," Newberg said. "These stars had previously been considered disk stars, but the stars don't match the density distribution you would expect for disk stars, so I thought 'well, maybe this could be another ring, or a highly disrupted dwarf galaxy."

When they revisited the data, they found four anomalies: one north of the galactic plane at 2 kilo-parsecs (kpc) from the sun, one south of the plane at 4-6 kpc, a third to the north at 8-10 kpc, and evidence of a fourth to the south 12-16 kpc from the sun. The Monoceros Ring is associated with the third ripple. The researchers further found that the oscillations appear to line up with the locations of the galaxy's spiral arms. Newberg said the findings support other recent research, including a theoretical finding that a dwarf galaxy or dark matter lump passing through the Milky Way would produce a similar rippling effect. In fact, the ripples might ultimately be used to measure the lumpiness of dark matter in our galaxy.

"It's very similar to what would happen if you throw a pebble into still water - the waves will radiate out from the point of impact," said Newberg. "If a dwarf galaxy goes through the disk, it would gravitationally pull the disk up as it comes in, and pull the disk down as it goes through, and this will set up a wave pattern that propagates outward. If you view this in the context of other research that's emerged in the past two to three years, you start to see a picture is forming."


TOPICS: Astronomy; Education; Science
KEYWORDS: andromeda; astronomy; catastrophism; curtishapleydebate; galaxy; greatdebate; harlowshapley; hebercurtis; heberdcurtis; m31; milkyway; monocerosring; shapleycurtisdebate; shapleywaswrong; space
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To: mosesdapoet

Did he also mention that our Solar System moves ‘up’ and ‘down’ in the arm, relative to the central plane?........................


21 posted on 03/13/2015 9:04:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger
Old Galaxy:

New Galaxy:


22 posted on 03/13/2015 9:42:57 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Yeh, but I think it’s still within the trillion mile sigma. :-)


23 posted on 03/13/2015 9:45:39 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The good news is that the Monoceros Ring is populated by unicorns.

And what is the population of the Rinoceros ring?


24 posted on 03/13/2015 9:53:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
Old Galaxy:

New Galaxy:


25 posted on 03/13/2015 11:03:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

Ok - so if we multiply by 4 all the material in our galaxy and assume the same for the other galaxies - how does that impact the truth or untruth of the existence of dark matter?


26 posted on 03/13/2015 11:24:56 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: reed13k

How do we know dark matter exists?

http://phys.org/news/2015-03-dark.html


27 posted on 03/13/2015 11:30:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

ahhhh see im glad I asked. that makes sense. thanks


28 posted on 03/13/2015 11:33:30 AM PDT by Shamrock498
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To: Red Badger

Makes a person feel just a tad insignificant, doesn’t it???


29 posted on 03/13/2015 11:42:07 AM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl

This heaven and earth is awesome, imagine what the NEW ones will be like!.........................


30 posted on 03/13/2015 11:46:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: blueunicorn6

http://time.com/3743673/wild-turkey-bourbon-theft-kentucky/


31 posted on 03/13/2015 11:47:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger
So if it's 50% larger than previously thought, what does this do for the “dark matter fudge factor thing” needed to hold it together?
32 posted on 03/13/2015 11:52:31 AM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: The Cajun

I would imagine that there must be more Dark Matter!

You can’t see it.
You can’t feel it.
You can’t taste it.

But it’s there..............

Just like AGW....................


33 posted on 03/13/2015 11:54:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger
I would imagine that there must be more Dark Matter!

Well if there is 50% more visible matter in the same sphere of space it occupies, can't add too much more dark matter or the whole mess will go spiraling in on itself, just looking at the gravity of the situation :)

34 posted on 03/13/2015 12:05:04 PM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Red Badger

Did he also mention that our Solar System moves ‘up’ and ‘down’ in the arm, relative to the central plane?........................

Might have, but not that I remember. He did not mention corrugation or its effects. Like everyone else posting after looking at that conception which does not show spiral arms noted the position of our sun’s relationship as closer to the center.


35 posted on 03/13/2015 12:27:32 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

No, but that’s a common misconception and straw man.


36 posted on 03/13/2015 12:54:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Red Badger; brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; bigheadfred; KoRn; Grammy; steelyourfaith; Mmogamer; ...
Thanks Red Badger. This appears to be a semantic change, at best. Relates to the Curtis-Shapley Debate though. Extra to APoD.

37 posted on 03/13/2015 12:56:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
Thanks Red Badger. This appears to be a semantic change, at best. Relates to the Curtis-Shapley Debate though.



38 posted on 03/13/2015 12:58:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: VanDeKoik

I think we should get a photo of our galaxy from a galaxy far far away to how big it really is.


39 posted on 03/13/2015 1:41:59 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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